[Python-mode] looking for a discussion of things python(-mode) ish

[Andreas Roehler]

Barry Warsaw wrote:
> On Sep 8, 2009, at 4:43 AM, Rohan Nicholls wrote:
> 
>> I checked out the python-mode launchpad project, and am now sending an
>> email.  Do I need to sign up to the python mailing list to see any
>> discussions?  Or does this email get me added to some secret list? ;)
> 
> While I approved your message, you should explicitly join here
> 
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-mode
> 
>> I am very interested in getting everything under one roof, although
>> the discussion I read in January seems to indicate that this will
>> never be.
>>
>> Just to sum up reasons that I had started using python.el
>> - python-mode had shown no sign of life for about 5 years
> 
> That's changed now.
> 
>> - The killer was the triple quote bug.  I was horribly stung by this,
>>   and at that point tossed python-mode even though the integration
>>   with ipython.el is hard to beat.
> 
> I personally am rarely enough bitten by this to care, but I would love
> to have someone port python.el's approach to python-mode.el.  IIRC,
> python.el uses regexps and python-mode.el uses the syntax table. 



Hi,

checking for the triple-quoted-bug:

with python.el,

(nth 8 (syntax-ppss)) shows the correct result.

Unfortunately with python-mode.el (nth 8 (syntax-ppss)) fails.

>From there I assume, setting the syntax-table properly
might solve the bug

Cheers

Andreas


 The
> syntax table has the advantage of being much faster, which mattered a
> lot at one time, but it's not flexibly enough to handle Python's quoting
> rules.
> 
>> - I am an emacs user, having given up on xemacs a couple of years
>>   ago, and it shows no sign of improving, so emacs specificity is not
>>   a problem for me, in fact it is a plus, as the various incompatible
>>   bits of the two systems do not start clogging up the code.
> 
> python-mode.el works just fine in both Emacs and XEmacs.
> 
>> So my questions are:
>> - Is the triple quote threat solved in python-mode (because it is in
>> python.el)
> 
> I don't believe it has ever been ported over.
> 
>> - It seems development has started up again, would this be correct,
>>   and is there a list of things to fix somewhere?  Also has Beverley
>>   Eyre compiled that list of features she mentioned back in January?
> 
> Yes, it's being actively developed, but my sense of it is that
> python-mode.el pretty much works well for everyone using it, so I
> wouldn't say there's a ton of itches that need scratching.  We add
> support for new syntax every time a new Python version comes out.  It's
> probably not as Python 3.x friendly as it should be.
> 
> -Barry
> 
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