[python-uk] The London Python Dojo is this Thursday

Mon Jul 15 15:36:53 CEST 2013

I suggest re-naming

From: "London Python Dojo"
To    : "London Python Party"

Please note that "The Public" are consistently [1] Googling for "Python
Party" more than "Python Dojo".

And Party is totally less martial-artsy.

[1]
http://www.google.co.uk/trends/explore?q=python+dojo#q=python%20dojo%2C%20%20python%20party&cmpt=q

On 15 July 2013 13:40, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:

>  I guess that makes sense: With the dojo we want to encourage
> participation, whereas with the game challenges I was thinking of, they are
> optimised to producing finished, working projects (where a proven track
> record is a good positive indicator.)
>
>     Jonathan
>
>
>
> On 15/07/13 13:33, Stestagg wrote:
>
> I wonder, with the dojo happening every month, and most people turning up
> most times, if this might turn into a bit of a popularity contest.
>
>  If a leader won last time, then people will be more likely to go for the
> 'safe option' and join that person next time.
>
>  I do like the current method of having random team choices
>
>  Steve
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:14 PM, René Dudfield <renesd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That could work with a theme... the goal doesn't have to be a game?
>> It's more inventing the problem as you go?
>>
>> Unrelated thought for a good exercise... new requirements are introduced
>> at half time... and then 5 minutes before the end... like real life.
>>  On Jul 15, 2013 2:05 PM, "Jonathan Hartley" <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  I don't think this helps, but it's a model I think is otherwise widely
>>> applicable, so I'll spread the seed:
>>>
>>> One model I've seen work well on game programming challenges is that
>>> self-selected leaders will each pitch their project vision, and then
>>> participants will decide which leader's team they would like to join.
>>> Leaders may also prefer other pitches to their own, and decide to revoke or
>>> merge pitches (generally, only one leader in a merged pitch will retain the
>>> 'leader' tag)
>>>
>>> This has advantages that:
>>>
>>> * self-selected leaders are vetted by the crowd. If they are revealed,
>>> during their pitch, to be blustering buffoons, then people can vote with
>>> their feet.
>>>
>>> * everyone gets to work with the project/leadership that they choose, so
>>> in theory happiness is maximised (for everyone apart from the 'failed'
>>> project leaders.)
>>>
>>> * projects which are popular are allocated correspondingly generous
>>> personpower.
>>>
>>> The disadvantages are:
>>>
>>> * It isn't remotely relevant to our current dojo format
>>>
>>> * It doesn't give even distribution of team sizes
>>>
>>>     Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/07/13 20:53, xtian wrote:
>>>
>>> I like the sound of this - Scrapheap Challenge style. You're right, it
>>> would take a bit more organisation though.
>>>
>>> On 12 Jul 2013, at 14:31, Alistair Broomhead <
>>> alistair.broomhead at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Something that may may not work (I guess it would take a fair amount
>>> of organisation) once a challenge has been picked, we ask people to
>>> volunteer as team leaders, they get a git repo set up and write tests, but
>>> their main role is to advise their team and give them a nudge on things
>>> which are stopping them from progressing. This would mean that each team
>>> has an 'expert', but I guess it would also mean people who were willing to
>>> take this role would have to bring a laptop off their own -an issue for me
>>> as I don't own one...
>>> On 12 Jul 2013 14:19, "Javier Llopis" <javier at correo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Another person could simply say: mmm... interesting but... not for my
>>>> >> level. And stop coming. Do you really want this?
>>>> >
>>>> > When all's said and done, if someone doesn't think it's for them, then
>>>> > it's not for them. We can try to be as accommodating as possible, but
>>>> > you can't please all the people all the time.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> ...And in this case, I would rather try to keep the expert coders in
>>>> instead of the newbies. Better be challenged than bored.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 2p
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
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