[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.3 - Carbon only?

[Magladry, Stephen]

Our cross platform code is already under development. Our first title is to
be released in about nine months. True 2.3 wouldn't be usable for us at that
time, but this engine will be reused many times, maybe even concurrently
with this first project. So a release three months after the release of 2.3
wouldn't be totally out of the question. That would make 8.6 not even 3 and
a half years old. Our current support of System 7.5.5, released in August
1996, makes our support go back almost 6 years. 3 and a half years, even 4
years,  is considerably shorter that 6 years. 

		-----Original Message-----
		From:	Nathan Heagy [mailto:nathan@vividworks.com]
		Sent:	Friday, January 04, 2002 11:17 AM
		To:	Magladry, Stephen
		Cc:	'Jack Jansen'; pythonmac-sig@python.org
		Subject:	RE: [Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython 2.3 - Carbon
only?

		> 		1. MacPython wouldn't run on 8.5 anymore
(for 8.1 MacPython
		> 2.2 is the last release anyway), and on 8.6 you would need
to manually
		> install CarbonLib.

		I stand corrected. Since I do think that Carbon is the right
way to go let
		me then say this: while, "8.6 is only about 2 and a half
years old," that
		is only right now. Python 2.3 will probably not be released
for nine
		months judging from 2.1's release. Add to that the
development time for a
		kids' game - perhaps a year - and at that point 8.6 will be
nearly five
		years old.

		Nathan


		> 		-----Original Message-----
		> 		From:	Nathan Heagy
[mailto:nathan@vividworks.com]
		> 		Sent:	Friday, January 04, 2002 11:03 AM
		> 		To:	Magladry, Stephen
		> 		Cc:	'Jack Jansen';
pythonmac-sig@python.org
		> 		Subject:	RE: [Pythonmac-SIG]
MacPython 2.3 - Carbon
		> only?
		>
		> 		I think that this only limits what platform
can be used for
		> development. I
		> 		expect to be corrected if I'm wrong however.
		>
		> 		Nathan
		>
		>
		>
		> 		On Fri, 4 Jan 2002, Magladry, Stephen wrote:
		>
		> 		> I guess I'll be a voice of dissention. I
work for a game
		> company writing
		> 		> kids software. We try to keep our min
specs as broad as
		> possible. As a point
		> 		> of reference, our current min specs is
7.5.5. In our up
		> coming games we plan
		> 		> to use Python. A requirement of 8.6 cuts
into our
		> potential market. Also,
		> 		> 8.6 is only about 2 and a half years old.
		> 		>
		> 		> True we can just stay with 2.2, but there
may be some
		> feature in 2.3 that we
		> 		> may really want to use. At that time, we
would be stuck
		> between a rock
		> 		> (wanting the new feature) and a hard place
(Having our min
		> spec jump up).
		> 		>
		> 		> 		-----Original Message-----
		> 		> 		From:	Jack Jansen
[mailto:jack@oratrix.nl]
		> 		> 		Sent:	Thursday, January
03, 2002 2:47 PM
		> 		> 		To:
pythonmac-sig@python.org
		> 		> 		Subject:
[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython
		> 2.3 - Carbon only?
		> 		>
		> 		> 		Folks,
		> 		> 		I'm toying with the idea of
making MacPython
		> 2.3
		> 		> Carbon-only, as this
		> 		> 		would save a lot of
development effort. And
		> there are a lot
		> 		> of things
		> 		> 		I'd like to do, for one
thing I would like
		> all our MacPython
		> 		> goodies
		> 		> 		to run natively in
MachoPython by the time
		> 2.3 is released.
		> 		>
		> 		> 		There are two drawbacks to
this plan:
		> 		> 		1. MacPython wouldn't run on
8.5 anymore
		> (for 8.1 MacPython
		> 		> 2.2 is the
		> 		> 		last release anyway), and on
8.6 you would
		> need to manually
		> 		> install
		> 		> 		CarbonLib.
		> 		> 		2. Tkinter is going to be a
problem, but I
		> think it is a
		> 		> solvable
		> 		> 		problem (it is possible to
load
		> InterfaceLib-based code into
		> 		> a
		> 		> 		CarbonLib-based main
program).
		> 		>
		> 		> 		What do people think?
		> 		> 		--
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