[Pythonmac-SIG] MacPython logo redux

[George B. Smith]

First let me say that while I am only learning Python, I do think
Python is a great language and that MacPython is a great piece of
software!  Up to this point, I have only been a lurker, just
trying to learn from all the great info on the list.  But I feel
compelled to say something about this proposed logo.

And you can just take this as a data point:  I can't stand snakes,
they creep me out, and I agree with Kevin that a photo-realistic
depiction of a snake is not my idea of a great logo.  In my
experience, a lot of people are creeped out by snakes.  I agree
with Kevin that a strategy of *positively* attracting a lot of
people to a product would not involve a photo-realistic snake
strangling the guts out of an object.  However, if the snake
was cutened up, like the "Tux" penguin from Linux is a cute
representation of a real penguin, then I think it would be fine
to include a snake.  Cuteness is cool, stark realism is not, IMO.

gbs

PS: I don't agree with Jack that it is not photo-realistic -
     I think the artist did a *way* too good a job of making it
     look like a real snake! :-)


On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:16  PM, Jack Jansen wrote:

> Another strong point in favor of this logo is that it's the first 
> non-Monty-Python one that I would seriously consider:-)
>
> My reasoning is somewhat like this:
> - Having a snake would strengthen the connection between MacPython and 
> the other Pythons.
> - Having a beautiful photo-realistic snake would strengthen the 
> connection between MacPython and the Macintosh.
>
> This image also has two important strong points: it's width and height 
> are about the same (making it easy to incorporate in other icons) and 
> moreover it wraps something (giving us yet another class of icons to 
> create).
>
> One technical issue is copyright: would the artist be willing to hand 
> over copyright to the PSF? In return I'd be more than willing to add a 
> page "the MacPython logo" to the website, with proper attribution of 
> the logo and a link to his website, etc.
>
> As to people afraid of snakes: unless a majority (or a sizeable 
> minority) of the people here agree that this is a problem I think we 
> shouldn't let this stop us (Sorry Kevin!!!). And: the snake isn't all 
> *that* realistic... Hmm, a compromise I'd be open to is if the artist 
> added Guido's glasses to the snake, would that be doable?
>
> As to that-type-of-christians taking offense (with the emphasis on 
> "that-type-of": 99% of the christians wouldn't, I'm pretty sure): no 
> problem, they're not using macs. See 
> <http://objective.jesussave.us/propaganda.html> for details. WARNING: 
> don't follow that URL unless you have a fair amount of spare time 
> available. It's addictive, and there's lots of good stuff on that site 
> and others near it.
> --
> Jack Jansen, <Jack.Jansen at cwi.nl>, http://www.cwi.nl/~jack
> If I can't dance I don't want to be part of your revolution -- Emma 
> Goldman
>
>
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