[Pythonmac-SIG] What's MacPython missing?

Larry Meyn Larry.A.Meyn at nasa.gov
Wed Oct 15 14:19:22 EDT 2003

SciPy and Chaco would be desireable.  I'm looking for a nice 
cross-platform way to make plots.  Right now I'm using graphite/piddle, 
but they no longer seem to be in active development.

On Wednesday, October 15, 2003, at 10:32 AM, Bob Ippolito wrote:

> I'm interested to know what people here would like to see for 
> MacPython.
> 	Which modules from other platforms would you really like to see?
> 	Which Apple APIs/Frameworks would you like to use but aren't wrapped 
> or aren't wrapped satisfactorily?
> 	What documentation do you think needs to be written/improved 
> (specifically)?
> These are a few of the things I'm interested in:
> 	Easy to use ARB_VERTEX_PROGRAM support for PyOpenGL (something like a 
> hybrid of ShaderBuilder and DrawBot)
> 		A numarray-esque syntax -> ARB_VERTEX_PROGRAM compiler (Cg *still* 
> isn't available for the Mac, and ATI's RenderMonkey is DirectX)
> 	An optimized PPC backend for Psyco (I'm kind of working on this on 
> and off.. at the PPC ASM compiler/decompiler stage)
> 	Better CoreAudio/AudioUnits support, here are some interesting 
> projects I've seen:
> 		http://arrowtheory.com/software/hypersonic/index.html
> 		http://www.icculus.org/al_osx/ (Highly optimized partial OpenAL 
> implementation)
> 		http://www.stolk.info/alpy/ (this is a GPL binding for OpenAL.. 
> probably a poor license choice)
> 	Better use of AltiVec in numarray (especially vec_perm stuff.. very 
> useful for byteswapped arrays and converting bitmaps)
> 	Some crazy bridge that lets you write Contextual Menu PlugIns in 
> Python (eww, COM.. this might be a job for ctypes and an embedded 
> Python?)
> 	A better PackageManager / distutils
> 	Fully functional SciPy / VTK / MayaVi
> 	PyQt for Qt/Mac
> 	A relatively bug free version of wxPython that's not noticeably slow 
> ;)
> 	Stackless on Python 2.3 (I know, this doesn't really have anything to 
> do specifically with MacPython, but it would be more useful to us if 
> it was on the Python 2.3 codebase)
> 	A version of PIL (or something like it) that's updated for Python 
> 2.2+ features and uses a more sensible storage mechanism (i.e. 
> something that isn't hardcoded to do RGB/RGBX/RGBA only).  I think 
> leveraging the SDL libraries would be good for this, as they can deal 
> with all kinds of bitmaps (arbitrary bit shifts for channels).  I'd 
> like to see the storage used actually be addressable directly as a 
> numarray (pygame sort of does this, but not quite adequately).
> 	Would be nice of Apple open sourced the SWIG wrapper for CoreGraphics 
> they wrote (included with vendor installed Python in MacOS X 10.3), 
> the bgen wrapper is missing a LOT of useful stuff from there.
> 	A smarter version of bgen or something bgen-like that was more 
> generic about the kind of C it could understand, and more modern about 
> the wrappers it spit out (keyword arguments, new style types with 
> initializers, etc).  Potentially it could even preserve documentation 
> from the original code, it would be relatively straightforward to do 
> that with most (new?) Apple headers.  Maybe even a version that spit 
> out ctypes wrappers instead.
> -bob
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