[Tutor] Re: Web development...

Israel Evans israel@lith.com
Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:24:45 -0700

In my search for web dev stuff, I found Skunkweb, an extensible, scalable
and easy to use application server written in Python.


>From the literature, it seems nicer than Zope, and even cooler than webware.
It's a *nux biased setup, but it seems pretty cool.  I haven't actualy used
it, but the makers say that it's really cool.  Since I've talked to people
on their mailing list, it seems I can start doing things the way I wanted to
start doing things.

I've also been looking at OpenACS ( http://openacs.org/index.adp ) for the
newsletter/community site I wanted to set up.  It's like ArsDigita's ACS but
it's set up so that it can be run with PostGres and on a *nix Box rather
than being constrained to Solaris and Windows 2000.  The only scary thing is
Java and I don't know if that's really a scary thing.  Especially if I can
write Jython.  The AOLServer does use TCL but I've heard that there are
Python bindings even for that.

-----Original Message-----
From: Lance E Sloan [mailto:lsloan@umich.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 4:15 PM
To: 'tutor@python.org'
Subject: [Tutor] Re: [opinions?] Web development... (kind of long)

dman wrote:
> Then, of course, there are plain CGI scripts if you don't like any of
> the existing frameworks.

I'll second that suggestion!

I'm fairly new to Python, I've only been using it for about four
months.  I write CGIs for other departments around the Univ. of
Michigan.  I've had a very good first experience with Python when my
boss assigned me to a project to write scheduling CGIs for our
hospital.  The doctor in charge requested that it be done in Python and
even agreed to spend more time and money for that feature.  I started
with some trepidation, but I can now say that Python is my language of

My Python CGI development kit is pretty simple.  I use a fairly recent
verson of Python (v2.0), DCOracle module, DocumentTemplate module
(ripped from Zope), and vi.  It beats the pants off of using a similar
kit I assembled for development with Perl.

I probably should have jumped right into using Zope entirely, but I
will have to work my way up to that.  In addition to my own comfort of
writing CGIs for a webserver and having trouble making myself develop
object orientedly, I didn't get much support from our webmasters to
install Zope on their servers.  I'm working on it.

My favorite part of this kit has to be DocumentTemplate.  It's very
powerful, similar in some ways to PyHTML, according to dman's

Lance E Sloan
Web Services, Univ. of Michigan: Full-service Web and database design,
development, and hosting.  Specializing in Python & Perl CGIs.
http://websvcs.itd.umich.edu/ - "Putting U on the Web"

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