[XML-SIG] SOAP, Web services, hype, and Python
Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:27:02 -0500
Why is there so little discussion of "web services" on xml-sig? I've read Paul
Prescod's comments on web services verses REST. I generally agree with what
he has written. I've also seen Dave Winer be critical of UDDI/WSDL and the
"moras" that has been created. Unfortunately, my group seems to think this is
the next big thing because Microsoft and IBM are pushing this technology. Am
I being stubborn and they are correct, or is this stuff really broken and
difficult to work with?
I am working on a project that is attempting to use SOAP to send RosettaNet
messages between web portals. The group is using Java as the primary
implementation of the portal and I'm venturing off to use Python, as a test
of technology independance. I have found the exercise to be frustrating. I
have identified and worked with four partially completed implementations of
SOAP in Python. The test process has been useful, because I have identified
some minor flaws with the Java implementation, but I am somewhat concerned
that the Python community seems so uninterested in SOAP and the associated
web services tools, such as WSDL and UDDI. Are web services considered a dead
end in the Python community? If so, then what should I be investigating as an
alternative? Or, is the Python community just ignoring the industry's attempt
to standardized on XML based exchange and interface definitions? Or, was it
simply the economic downturn that caused everyone to abandon SOAP in Python?
The WebServices implementation at Zope.org looks fairly complete, but I found
problems when trying to use it to read and use WSDL definitions from various
websites listed in xmethods.net.
Opinions, comments, suggestions?