[Twisted-Python] Half a day on a broken Pip install.
On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone help me?
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For starters, this is a picture of you trying to install Twisted on Python 3.7, which we do not yet support. I've filed https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9502#ticket <https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9502#ticket> as an umbrella ticket and created a new milestone for this to make it clearer. Have you tried on 3.6? -glyph
I get dumb errors trying to back out the 3.7 interpreter and adding in the 3.6...Invalid Python SDK. This is is so stupid. These things never work then you install seven gagillion things to work around what a waste. On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Glyph <glyph@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone help me?
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For starters, this is a picture of you trying to install Twisted on Python 3.7, which we do not yet support. I've filed https://twistedmatrix. com/trac/ticket/9502#ticket as an umbrella ticket and created a new milestone for this to make it clearer.
Have you tried on 3.6?
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Now everything is just broken. theres no support for this how am i supoose to learn when i just look shit up on the internet to fix it and end up breaking things even furthrer. jfc On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I get dumb errors trying to back out the 3.7 interpreter and adding in the 3.6...Invalid Python SDK. This is is so stupid. These things never work then you install seven gagillion things to work around what a waste.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Glyph <glyph@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone help me?
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For starters, this is a picture of you trying to install Twisted on Python 3.7, which we do not yet support. I've filed https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9502#ticket as an umbrella ticket and created a new milestone for this to make it clearer.
Have you tried on 3.6?
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Ryan. Usually bleeding edge python distributions are not supported on large code bases for a number of months. This is because a good deal of testing must occur before folks trust it in production. It's a good thing you only gain by using a previous version - even python 2.7. I suggest following Moshez' tutorial for dockerizing twisted apps. It is the right way to package and distribute your twisted and might make it easier for you in the short term. https://github.com/moshez/sayhello Hope it helps. On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Now everything is just broken. theres no support for this how am i supoose to learn when i just look shit up on the internet to fix it and end up breaking things even furthrer. jfc
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I get dumb errors trying to back out the 3.7 interpreter and adding in the 3.6...Invalid Python SDK. This is is so stupid. These things never work then you install seven gagillion things to work around what a waste.
On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Glyph <glyph@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2018, at 9:33 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Can someone help me?
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For starters, this is a picture of you trying to install Twisted on Python 3.7, which we do not yet support. I've filed https://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/9502#ticket as an umbrella ticket and created a new milestone for this to make it clearer.
Have you tried on 3.6?
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On Jul 29, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Now everything is just broken. theres no support for this how am i supoose to learn when i just look shit up on the internet to fix it and end up breaking things even furthrer. jfc
I understand that this is frustrating (and I've put more of my life than I care to think into trying to make this kind of thing less frustrating) but please keep in mind that everyone on this list is a volunteer. We would like you to have a positive experience with Twisted, but given that you are probably using 600 other pieces of technology at the same time (by the look of it: Windows, PyCharm, Django, Django Channels, Visual Studio, and so on) it's difficult for us to provide immediate authoritative answers that will work in your exact situation. However, If you can be patient and try to explain more exactly what's going wrong, I'm sure that we can either get you back up and running with Twisted or direct you to a support forum that is more suited to where the problem actually lies. -glyph
now its saying i need dockers but I need to work at a fortune 500 company to purchase and install Dockers. All I want to do i learn and run DJANGO and Run this tutorial. https://channels.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial/part_2.html I spend 2 days on things that dont even work and its a waste of time. I mean I get it and appreciate it but this is a big way not to have people use your products. On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Glyph <glyph@twistedmatrix.com> wrote:
On Jul 29, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Now everything is just broken. theres no support for this how am i supoose to learn when i just look shit up on the internet to fix it and end up breaking things even furthrer. jfc
I understand that this is frustrating (and I've put more of my life than I care to think into trying to make this kind of thing *less* frustrating) but please keep in mind that everyone on this list is a volunteer. We would like you to have a positive experience with Twisted, but given that you are probably using 600 other pieces of technology at the same time (by the look of it: Windows, PyCharm, Django, Django Channels, Visual Studio, and so on) it's difficult for us to provide immediate authoritative answers that will work in your exact situation.
However, If you can be patient and try to explain more exactly what's going wrong, I'm sure that we can either get you back up and running with Twisted or direct you to a support forum that is more suited to where the problem actually lies.
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theres just always some snag b/c of all this module importing thats supposed to make django easy so you have this repository via pip thats just cluttered with crap. Dependices are a problem...moving parts. computers have too many moving parts and interactions and layers and layers of crap. Are On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
and thats not even evniormnet stuff like linux vs mac vs windows. its a guessing game on what to download. and its much easier just to bitch about it. I think because no one really knows..everyone just kinda struggles though the dark with a light and hopes for the best. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
theres just always some snag b/c of all this module importing thats supposed to make django easy so you have this repository via pip thats just cluttered with crap.
Dependices are a problem...moving parts. computers have too many moving parts and interactions and layers and layers of crap. Are
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
On Jul 30, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
and thats not even evniormnet stuff like linux vs mac vs windows. its a guessing game on what to download. and its much easier just to bitch about it. I think because no one really knows..everyone just kinda struggles though the dark with a light and hopes for the best.
Is that screenshot just… literally a list of everything on PyPI? That is a very strange decision on the part of the PyCharm developers. (I can't imagine who would want to look at it that way; I can assure you most professional Python developers don't.) -glyph
Ryan here's the free version of docker to install. https://www.docker.com/community-edition After you have that running try this: https://github.com/zerok/channels-in-docker The three lines to run it are at the bottom of the page. You'll need to learn more about docker as it's a big part of the development process and makes things a lot easier. On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
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Docker doesn’t work with windows 8. I talked to the developer. Andrew Goodwin. I don’t have the budget to upgrade. I appreciate the help. 2 days of my life I will never get back. Thanks for all the help. Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:58 PM, Jonah Crawford <jonah.crawford@gmail.com> wrote:
Ryan here's the free version of docker to install.
https://www.docker.com/community-edition
After you have that running try this:
https://github.com/zerok/channels-in-docker
The three lines to run it are at the bottom of the page. You'll need to learn more about docker as it's a big part of the development process and makes things a lot easier.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote: I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
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As a backup to installing docker directly you might try vagrant which will work on windows 8 then install docker inside a vagrant image (in virtualbox) There's almost always a way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZrQsxCPT2s https://www.vagrantup.com/ But alas, sometimes development failures are a good thing. It shows you what your limits are and where your time might be better spent. Anyways good luck! On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM, Ryan M <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Docker doesn’t work with windows 8. I talked to the developer. Andrew Goodwin.
I don’t have the budget to upgrade.
I appreciate the help. 2 days of my life I will never get back.
Thanks for all the help.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:58 PM, Jonah Crawford <jonah.crawford@gmail.com> wrote:
Ryan here's the free version of docker to install.
https://www.docker.com/community-edition
After you have that running try this:
https://github.com/zerok/channels-in-docker
The three lines to run it are at the bottom of the page. You'll need to learn more about docker as it's a big part of the development process and makes things a lot easier.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
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On Windows 8, you can use Docker Toolbox instead, which should function just fine for what you're trying to do. https://docs.docker.com/toolbox/toolbox_install_windows/ <https://docs.docker.com/toolbox/toolbox_install_windows/> -glyph
On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Ryan M <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com> wrote:
Docker doesn’t work with windows 8. I talked to the developer. Andrew Goodwin.
I don’t have the budget to upgrade.
I appreciate the help. 2 days of my life I will never get back.
Thanks for all the help.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:58 PM, Jonah Crawford <jonah.crawford@gmail.com <mailto:jonah.crawford@gmail.com>> wrote:
Ryan here's the free version of docker to install.
https://www.docker.com/community-edition <https://www.docker.com/community-edition>
After you have that running try this:
https://github.com/zerok/channels-in-docker <https://github.com/zerok/channels-in-docker>
The three lines to run it are at the bottom of the page. You'll need to learn more about docker as it's a big part of the development process and makes things a lot easier.
On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 10:35 AM, Ryan McParlan <mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com <mailto:mcparlan.ryan@gmail.com>> wrote: I mean I wish I could explain what goes wrong. Thats 90% of the frustration.
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