[Baypiggies] [JOB] job posting policy

[Aahz]

On Sat, Aug 08, 2009, Stephen McInerney wrote:
> From: aahz at pythoncraft.com
>> On Sat, Aug 08, 2009, Stephen McInerney wrote:
>>>
>>> Also as to recruiters vs direct, as the economy gets worse, more
>>> and more companies use recruiters as the first-line in sourcing and
>>> filtering the thousands of resumes they get for every position.
>>> Basically nobody does direct cold application any more, in reality.
>> 
>> Based on my recent job-hunting experience over the past six months, you
>> are completely incorrect. Most of the job ads on Craigslist were direct,
>> for example, and that's how I found my current job (not to mention my
>> previous job five years ago). The Python job board also mostly has
>> direct listings:
>> http://www.python.org/community/jobs/
> 
> [This is getting us offtopic, but anyway...]

<shrug>  You are making assertions unsupported by the facts; nobody
forced you to say, "nobody does direct cold application".

> My experience differs greatly from yours, and I think the reasons are
> the difference between contracting vs permanent, and small companies
> vs large companies.
>
> Small companies eps. looking for contract positions do have the
> principal posting directly to craigslist, yes.
>
> Large companies tend not to, or at very least they use recruiters.
>
> New media companies do, and engineering companies tend not to.

When I see companies like Google and Lucas and Sony direct recruiting for
Python jobs on Craigslist, it's very clear that at least some significant
large companies are not entirely happy with the recruiter model.

Perhaps what you meant is that large companies rarely have the hiring
manager do the first pass on incoming resumes.  But that has been true
for more than a couple of decades; while there are now more recruiting
specialists handling that instead of generic HR people, that doesn't
significantly change the large-company hiring model.  It also is nothing
like what you said, particularly in the context of whether recruiting
companies should be allowed to post to BayPIGgies; large-company
recruiters are often completely in-house and have always been permitted
to post jobs to BayPIGgies.

Reminder:
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet?
-- 
Aahz (aahz at pythoncraft.com)           <*>         http://www.pythoncraft.com/

"...string iteration isn't about treating strings as sequences of strings, 
it's about treating strings as sequences of characters.  The fact that
characters are also strings is the reason we have problems, but characters 
are strings for other good reasons."  --Aahz