[Chicago] ChiPy Needs your Help!

Daniel Griffin dgriff1 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 5 20:49:36 CET 2009


This is a pretty interesting discussion by itself. What makes a language
good? I guess i'm more interested in how a language will make my life
easier.

This is pretty much why I wanted to do C. C is THE baseline language. In the
current day its "kinda cross-platform assembly".  So how hard is it to make
a database driven app or maintain cross platform code? What kind
typing/containers does the language provide? Can you use OO design or create
functional code? What kind of issues does this language have?

I dont think anyone will be blown away by C, but it will make an interesting
comparison with other languages like Java or tcl and that's why I
volunteered to show it. Also, most people nowadays dont learn about the
magic of direct memory access and the amazing/terrible things you can do.

If the consensus is to re-focus on dynamic/interpeted/scripting-ish
languages i wont mind.

Dan




On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Ian Bicking <ianb at colorstudy.com> wrote:

> sheila miguez wrote:
>
>> It's ambitious so it would be good to get a list. I thought we were
>> going to focus on dynamic languages, but with c and java et al it
>> might be too ambitious.
>>
>> For tcl I was hoping to hear about tclkits vs eggs since I hear that eggs
>> suck.
>>
>
> What's interesting would depend on the language, no?  I only want to hear
> about interesting stuff.  If tclkits are interesting, I'd like to hear about
> them.
>
> How about as a comparison point: how is the language interestingly better
> than Python?  As an example: "it's faster" might be a case of "better" but
> it isn't really "interesting" (though maybe a short discussion of how type
> declarations enable runtime optimizations might be interesting -- I just
> don't think a laundry list of advantages is interesting).
>
> For instance, if I talked about Logo I'd probably talk only about its
> advantages as a teaching language.  For Smalltalk there's the persistent
> image, and how it breaks down the difference between code and objects.
>
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