[Edu-sig] One list or two?

Winston Wolff winstonw at stratolab.com
Sat Apr 29 05:21:48 CEST 2006

Mr. Tobis-

I applaud your goal to start a list to promote Python projects for  
education.  But I wonder, wouldn't any such projects have their own  
dedicated mailing lists?  I fear slightly that two lists would dilute  
the attendance, and risk falling below a critical mass of people.  As  
Kirby says, though, by all means give it a go, and we'll see what  
happens.  Perhaps a different venue will start something new and  


On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:54 PM, kirby urner wrote:

>> There was general agreement among the attendees at the education BOF
>> meeting at PyCon that a new list was necessary, so although my own
>> presence is recent, my assertion was not unsupported. There has also
>> been some discussion of dissatisfaction with the breadth of  
>> discussion
>> here expressed since I have been following the list, notably  
>> including
>> some strongly worded advice from Guido van Rossum recently.
> Guido was upset that we were straying into education philosophy,
> understandable given the just-ended Shuttleworth Summit, where such
> philosophical questions came up repeatedly.  I am in full agreement
> that education philosophy *should* be on the table, but *not* here on
> edu-sig, where we'll just bog down in endless citations of an alien
> literature (i.e. by writers who know nothing of Python or our work
> together).
> As to a BOF wanting to start a new list, I don't see a problem,
> although it seems unnecessary to cast it as a fork or breakaway from
> edu-sig.  Just propose a new group with a mission statement or focus,
> other than what's already covered here, why not?
>> It happens that in response to this general agreement at PyCon, I set
>> up such a list on Google Groups, with myself and Vern Ceder as owners
>> and potential moderators, and there has been some traffic moving
>> there.
>> http://groups.google.com/group/edupython?lnk=oa
> Sounds good to me.  Good luck with that.  I'm staying with edu-sig
> myself and haven't time for two Python in education groups.
> Kirby
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