[Edu-sig] What do folks think of creating a #python-k12 channel on freenode?

[Sebastian Silva]

I think each of those platforms caters to different sets of users.

It all depends on who you want to talk with.

I find that an IRC chat is nice to have for casual conversation.

For instance, if we had a website we could embed the chatroom with the
following iframe:

<iframe
src="http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=%23python-k12&uio=MTY9dHJ1ZSYyPXRydWUmOT10cnVlJjExPTI4Nwee"
width="647" height="400"></iframe>

Or one could reach it directly thru a link
<http://webchat.freenode.net?channels=%23python-k12&uio=MTY9dHJ1ZSYyPXRydWUmOT10cnVlJjExPTI4Nwee>.

More fancy clients are available as well as bridges.

I'm not in capacity to provide hosting for a hosted solution, but what
we have now is quite usable.

That said, I will take a look at Zulip, sounds pretty cool.

Regards,

Sebastian


On 13/05/18 13:21, Wes Turner wrote:
> #pythonK12 (without the dash) could be a hashtag, as well.
>
> There was a discussion on the python-dev list awhile ago about Slack,
> Gitter, Mattermost, and Zulip; which are all HTTP-based chat solutions
> with mobile clients and serverside logging.
>
> Python-dev chose to create a Zulip instance. Zulip was initially
> created at Dropbox. [1]
>
> Slack, Gitter, Matter most, and Zulip all have free and paid plans for
> hosted webchat with bots. Mattermost and Zulip are open source and can
> be run on-premise.
>
> I think all of them support @mentions now; which, for IRC, requires
> some IRC-fu and constantly idling with an IRC c lient app that may or
> may not expose the IP address.
>
> With free hosted plans, serverside logging is limited but better than
> directing new joins to the an IRC chan to the log available over HTTP
> as HTML or /dcc.
>
> It may be even less likely that edu-sig users will IRC than that
> python-dev users will IRC; YMMV.
>
> [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2018-April/152826.html
>
> [1] https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/dev-python/JyyOu5ypBqA
> <https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#%21topic/dev-python/JyyOu5ypBqA>
>
> [1]
> https://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.python.python-dev#query:list%3Aorg.python.python-dev%20zulip+page:1+mid:p2f37mkblhdoyxys+state:results
>
> > [Python-Dev] Introducing python.zulipchat.com
> <http://python.zulipchat.com>
> >
> > As an experiment we have gotten an instance of Zulip running for
> Python's development at https://python.zulipchat.com (IOW this is for
> discussing the development *of* Python only*)*. As Guido has put it
> you can view Zulip like "hyper-interactive email" as we have streams
> corresponding to equivalent mailing lists and all messages fall under
> a topic so conversations are on-topic.
> > 
> > [...]
>
>
> On Sunday, May 13, 2018, Kevin Cole <kevin.cole at novawebdevelopment.org
> <mailto:kevin.cole at novawebdevelopment.org>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Sat, May 12, 2018 at 10:40 PM, Sebastian Silva
>     <sebastian at fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebastian at fuentelibre.org>> wrote:
>
>         Hi,
>
>         I'm in! Actually I've been at that IRC channel for the past
>         couple of days and haven't seen anyone come by.
>
>     ​By "that IRC channel" are you referring to ​​_*#python-k12*_?​
>
>
>     ​I think that's what Jeff meant by "what IRC channel" -- i.e. the
>     name not the details of how it was implemented.​
>
>
>
>     -- 
>     *Kevin Cole*
>     <http://novawebdevelopment.org>
>     NOVA Web Development Co-Op
>     http://novawebdevelopment.org/
>     Arlington, VA
>

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