[Mailman-Developers] Re: [Mailman-Users] [ANNOUNCE] Mailman 2.1 alpha 2

Forrest Aldrich forrie@navipath.com
Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:28:14 -0400

I'd be happy with an admin-configurable option to either do traditional 
subscription confirmation or the http method.

At 02:03 PM 7/13/2001 -0700, Chuq Von Rospach wrote:
>On 7/13/01 1:43 PM, "Gerald Oskoboiny" <gerald@impressive.net> wrote:
> > This violates the HTTP protocol: visiting a URL (i.e., an HTTP GET)
> > should not have side effects like confirming a subscription.
>My first reaction was "say what?" but I went and read the w3 stuff before
> > I realize that a number of other sites misuse GET this way, but I
> > think most of the large ones (e.g., Yahoo, online brokerages and
> > banks, etc.) get it right, and I think Mailman should too.
>Because, frankly, I think w3 is wrong IN THIS CASE. That may make sense in a
>general case, especially on an HTTP only situation, but in this case, where
>the URL is being carried in e-mail to confirm an action the user has
>(presumably) started, I think they're wrong. As long as the e-mail clearly
>delineates the action being taken, do what's easy for the user; and the user
>isn't going to want to go clicking through multiple links just to allow us
>to abide to the HTTP stuff.
>But the key is this is a finalization of a distributed transaction, with
>e-mail distributing the token. Under other circumstances, I see W3's logic.
>Here, however, using a URL to bring up a page that says "click here to
>confirm" is only going to piss off Joe User, not make his life better.
>Chuq Von Rospach, Internet Gnome <http://www.chuqui.com>
>[<chuqui@plaidworks.com> = <me@chuqui.com> = <chuq@apple.com>]
>Yes, yes, I've finally finished my home page. Lucky you.
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