[Mailman-Users] problems with the config.db permissions

[Tib]

Check_perms fails to find it, and it's turning into a major problem.

What (exactly) writes and rewrites the config.db file and what are the actual
permissions it's supposed to have? From ealier reference it sounded as though
it should be owned by nobody (since the webserver
modifies/creates/backs-up/etc) and the group should be mailman. Ok - I can deal
with this - but after manually setting the ownership to be just that - this is
what I get after waiting a while and checking again:

[root at unica mailman]# ls -lR lists/|grep config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      9759 May  9 14:14 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      9759 May  9 14:14 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman     16876 May  9 15:27 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman     16876 May  9 15:26 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      2865 May  3 04:03 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      2865 May  3 04:03 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3775 May  9 12:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3775 May  8 17:00 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      5123 May  9 14:08 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      5123 May  9 14:08 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3149 May  9 12:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3149 May  8 17:00 config.db.last

[root at unica mailman]# ls -lR lists/|grep config.db
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mail         9759 May  9 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      9759 May  9 14:14 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mail        16876 May  9 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman     16876 May  9 15:27 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      2865 May  3 04:03 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      2865 May  3 04:03 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mail         3775 May  9 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3775 May  9 12:00 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mail         5123 May  9 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      5123 May  9 14:08 config.db.last
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mail         3149 May  9 17:00 config.db
-rw-rw----    1 nobody   mailman      3149 May  9 12:00 config.db.last

As you can see - the ones that get modified have their permissions changed to
'mailman:mail' and I've seen further changes where it becomes 'nobody:mail' and
then mailman starts spitting errors out right and left and the lists just queue
up messages and don't do anything anymore. Could someone please explain in
detail exactly how it's /supposed/ to happen in a good situation?

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Tib