[Mailman-Users] Summary, whats next?

Danny Terweij danny at terweij.nl
Mon Apr 29 02:39:27 CEST 2002

From: "Jon Carnes" <jonc at nc.rr.com>

> Try creating a test list in your /etc/aliases on the box (non-local email
> addresses) and send to the list. Monitor the queue while you are doing it.
> Does this list move out quickly?  How does the speed compare with qrunner
> handling a Mailman list?

I have a few test lists, local adresses and non-local adresses (separated).
Both same results.

When a external message is comming in, it is in just seconds transfered to
the qfiles dir.
That part of mailman is working speedy and fine.

> I'm guessing that either your sendmail is having some weird timout, or
> you box is too heavily loaded with other processes...

No heavy loads.

> What does "top" give you when you look at it?  How much processor is
> available? How much memory is being used?  Is it swapping alot?

top not running qrunner:
  2:19am  up  4:21,  1 user,  load average: 1.17, 1.54, 1.58
66 processes: 65 sleeping, 1 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states:  1.9% user,  2.3% system,  0.0% nice, 95.7% idle
Mem:    94124K av,   44044K used,   50080K free,       4K shrd,    2760K
Swap:  192772K av,   31316K used,  161456K free                   23684K

top running qrunner:
  2:23am  up  4:25,  1 user,  load average: 1.46, 1.58, 1.58
68 processes: 65 sleeping, 3 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped
CPU states: 97.5% user,  2.4% system,  0.0% nice,  0.0% idle
Mem:    94124K av,   63608K used,   30516K free,       4K shrd,    4384K
Swap:  192772K av,   31252K used,  161520K free                   33332K

 8288 mailman   14   0  8388 8388  1388 R    92.7  8.9   1:56 python

Using standard python 1.5.2 orso from RH 7.2 dist.
Also python 2 installed here.. invoked as command python2 (for mm2.1 when it
comes out :-) )

> How big is your Swap on your box?  How much of your swap are you using
> sending to a list?

See above...

> Are you running your box in Run Level 3 or in Run Level 5 (graphical user
> interface)?  Please run it in 3 - your machine is fairly under powered for
> 7.2 so it is not going to be able to handle Run Level 5 very quickly.

No GUI, i have an unsupported video card. X wont start. So i use level 3 all
times and don't start X.
(even no monitor attached to this box.. doing all remote)

> Have you updated your kernel from the default install:
>    up2date -f -i kernel, kernel-headers

I have 2.4.9-31, latest from up2date.
Also using apt for latest releases.

> How much space do you have on your box - are any of the filesystems
> low on space?
>    df -h

Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb1              38G   17G   19G  46% /
/dev/hda1              49M  7.6M   38M  17% /boot
none                   46M     0   45M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda2             455M   98M  334M  23% /prv
/dev/hdc1              38G   14G   22G  38% /users

> Of key importance for space is the /var area used to handle the mail

/var sitting on / and 19gb free.

> Since Mailman in general runs extremely fast - even on low processor
boxes, I
> would focus on your system and its load to see if the bottle neck is

The heavy load is when qrunner is running. The linux box is not doing other
heavy tasks.

Running :

All above is not used often, except mrtg every 5 mins and sendmail.

> Good Luck

Maybe you see something wrong...

Danny Terweij.

>  --- Original Message: Sunday 28 April 2002 04:57 pm ---
> > Hello,
> >
> > Still no success of fast processing the qfiles dir.
> >
> > WITH DEFAULT MAILMAN VALUES at Default.py file
> >


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