[Mailman-Users] Re: personalization features (was Re: Archive URL in postings (2.1b3))

Harald Koch chk at pobox.com
Fri Nov 1 16:36:52 CET 2002

[ Sorry for jumping in late; deadlines have been causing me to ignore my
  list-mail >:]

Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Chuq Von Rospach
had to walk into mine and say:
> why? I'm curious. Other than it's "not what I'm used to"?

That's it in a nutshell. It violates the principle of "Least Surprise".

At least for discussion lists, we users have years (even decades) of
experience with the concept that the e-mail address of the individual
subscriber does not appear in the To: or Cc: headers. We are therefore
(understandably) surprised when this changes.

As far as I'm concerned, the filtering digression is a red herring; it's
not the real issue.

I believe that personalisation is cool. I know that there are *some*
environments where To/CC munging is a positive, not a negative;
corporate customer communication is an obvious example. I know
personalisation can be turned on and off.

*My* question is:

    Can this new To/Cc munging sub-option of personalisation be enabled
    or disabled separately from other personalisation tricks (like the
    personalised list-info URL you mentioned in the other thread)? I
    suspect that an option to do this would be the final piece to make
    everyone happy...

You also wrote:
> MLMs have a long tradition of modifying them. If you CC or BCC a 
> list, it generally rewrites itself into the to line. We've changed that 
> to CC.

I've never used one, and I don't encounter them that often in the field.
That is my personal experience, but I'm (currently) subscribed to about
150 mailing lists and I've been doing this for 18 years...

Harald Koch     <chk at pobox.com>

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