[Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email

Wed Jul 16 01:13:10 CEST 2003

I don't see where he claimed that at all.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailman-users-bounces+mike=camaross.net at python.org 
> [mailto:mailman-users-bounces+mike=camaross.net at python.org] 
> On Behalf Of Cody Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 6:12 PM
> To: Mailman
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> 
> 
> Think what you like, but you can't say taht more and more 
> people want HTML e-mails.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Barrett" <r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk>
> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
> Cc: "Mailman" <mailman-users at python.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 8:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> 
> 
> >
> > On Tuesday, July 15, 2003, at 11:35 PM, Cody Harris wrote:
> >
> > > If it was suddenly unprofessional to not use HTML and use 
> XML, would 
> > > you follow?
> >
> > The use of XML and HTML are not equivalent.
> >
> > Using XML to semantically markup data for transmission via email is 
> > justified where it is used to remove ambiguity in the data; 
> I contrast 
> > this with the XML markup generated with similar objectives to HTML 
> > markup by some popular PC applications in particular.
> >
> > IMNSHO filling people's mail boxes, burning their bandwidth 
> and spam 
> > and junk  mail filter performance with mail tarted up using HTML is 
> > not justified.
> >
> > HMTL email is for the most part, like much HTML markup on 
> web pages, a 
> > triumph of form over content.
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Customer & Technical Support" <support at pczero.net>
> > > To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>; "Mailman" 
> > > <mailman-users at python.org>; "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >
> > >
> > >>          HTML in email sucks.  If I want to see a damn web page 
> > >> I'll go to the URL.  Most people use HTML to dress up spam or 
> > >> otherwise hide the fact
> > >> that they had nothing worthwhile to say anyway.  I 
> filter ALL HTML
> > >> out of
> > >> any mail I get.  Its extremely unprofessional to use.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> At 07:17 PM 7/15/2003 -0300, Cody Harris wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> HTML allows the e-mails to be well layed out. Things to 
> be bolded 
> > >>> to ppl don't have to hunt for them. Wait a minute, i'm 
> not sending 
> > >>> to the
> > > mailman
> > >>> list! I'm sending to you. Oops ^_^. Anyways. I'' just add it to 
> > >>> CC.
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> > >>> To: "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:14 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> For me, I'm anti HTML emails for our clients because 
> of the extra
> > > traffic
> > >>>> that it incurs.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 7/15/03 3:12 PM, "Cody Harris" <hchs at ns.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Why is that people are anti HTML? How about if sites 
> went anti 
> > >>>>> html?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>>> From: "Jason Buscema" <jpbuse at lambesis.com>
> > >>>>> To: <mailman-users at python.org>
> > >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:08 PM
> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Footer message in html email
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> Ha... I'm in the same boat really... I discouraged 
> the client 
> > >>>>>> from
> > >>> sending
> > >>>>>> HTML emails, but they insisted. The email recipients actually
> > > prefer
> > >>> the
> > >>>>>> HTML vs plain text now, to my surprise. We use 
> Mailman to send 
> > >>>>>> the
> > >>> daily
> > >>>>>> emails, but we do not use Mailman for list 
> management (at least 
> > >>>>>> for
> > >>> this
> > >>>>>> list). The management is handled through the web site itself
> > > (skyy.com)
> > >>>>>> using MySql. A user creates an account, then from there they 
> > >>>>>> can
> > >>> subscribe
> > >>>>>> to a list. We want the daily messages to have a link with a 
> > >>>>>> unique
> > > ID
> > >>> in
> > >>>>> it
> > >>>>>> for a quick unsubscribe. I had the method all worked 
> out, then 
> > >>>>>> we
> > > went
> > >>> w/
> > >>>>>> HTML emails :(
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> don't send HTML :-)
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Seriously, though, I asked the same thing, and 
> Barry basically
> > > vetoed
> > >>>>> it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> if you find a way (even with a local patch), I'm all eyes.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I have a $CLIENT that would love it.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> LER
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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