[Mailman-Users] Wishlist and maybe problem solution

Richard Barrett r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk
Wed Jun 4 09:58:02 CEST 2003


At 08:17 04/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
>On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:05:44PM +0100, Richard Barrett wrote:
> > At 16:25 03/06/2003, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
> > >|From: [listname-bounce at hostname.domain] on behalf of [real.sender at domain]
> >
> > I think you will also find some versions of MS Outlook display this
> > conflation of several headers in the "From" field of their GUI (see
> > http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq02.003.htp).
>
>  Yes, that's exactly what it's about, right.
>
> > The purpose of this behaviour is presumably to alert the end user to
> > the possibility of something "nefarious" because of the (entirely
> > valid) discrepancy between different headers on a message.
>
>  Between the envelope-from (Sender-Header) and the From: header.
>
> > This behaviour cannot be controlled by Mailman because it is the
> > programmed into the MUA's GUI code.
>
>  Of course it can, because the Sender-Header must not be the -bounces
>address like I said, it can be the usual mailing-list address instead.
>The »Return-Path« header is the only one that must be set to the
>-bounces address, to not loose the bounce-handling of mailman.
>
>  Thanks for your input, though. I guess I'll have to dig myself.
>Alfie

If you want to try making your suggested change then (for MM 2.1.2) look to 
line 342 of Mailman/Handlers/SMTPDirect.py in function bulkdeliver() and 
change:

     msg['Sender'] = envsender

to read:

     msg['Sender'] = mlist.GetListEmail()

Do not forget that indentation is syntactically significant in Python!

This change should lead to the SMTP envelope having the bounce alias on it 
while the Sender is just the list alias. Do not blame me if inappropriate 
stuff starts getting posted to the list because of the change and do let us 
know how you get on with the change.



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