[Mailman-Users] HellMail

[Paul H Byerly]

      After a lot of testing I am pretty sure this is a HotMail issue, but 
it seems to be keyed to something innocent in Mailman and maybe someone can 
give me a clue as to what and what to do about it (aside from getting 
everyone to get a real e-mail account.)  Tests to AOL and roadrunner work fine.

Mailman 2.2.1
Python-2.2.2
RedHat 7.1
Ensim webhost, but installed outside the chrooted environment.

      Two lists trying to send to paulfoobar at hotmail.com:

      With the general discussion list messages sent by paul at foo.com go 
through, while message from paul at foobar.com are not received.  Both foo and 
foobar are on the same server as Mailman, and the same path is followed for 
mail from each.

      With the announcement style messages from neither foo nor foobar get 
though.

      All subscription notifications were received properly.  Trying to 
change mailman setting to reproduce one lists problems on the other has not 
worked.  Below are the final mail log entries for the three situations I've 
given:

Sent to discussion list by paul at foobar.com - received by 
paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
Jun 26 11:52:01 svr01 sendmail[9505]: h5QGq0609503: 
to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=146535, relay=mx2.hotmail.com. [65.54.252.230], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<5.2.1.1.0.20030626115137.02b7c938 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for delivery)

Sent to discussion list by paul at bar.com - received by paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
Jun 26 11:34:19 svr01 sendmail[7132]: h5QGYD607130: 
to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=146494, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<5.2.1.1.0.20030626113344.02b9ead8 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for delivery)

Sent to announcement list by paul at bar.com - not received 
paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
Jun 25 22:39:55 svr01 sendmail[3603]: h5Q3dt603600: 
to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=esmtp, 
pri=87264, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
<5.2.1.1.0.20030625222958.033819b0 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for delivery)

      I am no expert on mail logs, but does this not show HotMail accepting 
all three messages?  Any ideas?


<>< Paul