[Mailman-Users] HellMail

[Gerald V. Livingston II]

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 12:20:30 -0500 Paul H Byerly <paul at thcwd.com> wrote:

>       After a lot of testing I am pretty sure this is a HotMail issue,
> but 
> it seems to be keyed to something innocent in Mailman and maybe someone
> can 
> give me a clue as to what and what to do about it (aside from getting 
> everyone to get a real e-mail account.)  Tests to AOL and roadrunner
> work fine.
> 
> Mailman 2.2.1
> Python-2.2.2
> RedHat 7.1
> Ensim webhost, but installed outside the chrooted environment.
> 
>       Two lists trying to send to paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
> 
>       With the general discussion list messages sent by paul at foo.com go 
> through, while message from paul at foobar.com are not received.  Both foo
> and 
> foobar are on the same server as Mailman, and the same path is followed
> for 
> mail from each.
> 
>       With the announcement style messages from neither foo nor foobar
> get 
> though.
> 
>       All subscription notifications were received properly.  Trying to 
> change mailman setting to reproduce one lists problems on the other has
> not 
> worked.  Below are the final mail log entries for the three situations
> I've 
> given:
> 
> Sent to discussion list by paul at foobar.com - received by 
> paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
> Jun 26 11:52:01 svr01 sendmail[9505]: h5QGq0609503: 
> to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=esmtp, 
> pri=146535, relay=mx2.hotmail.com. [65.54.252.230], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
> ( 
> <5.2.1.1.0.20030626115137.02b7c938 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for
> delivery)
> 
> Sent to discussion list by paul at bar.com - received by
> paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
> Jun 26 11:34:19 svr01 sendmail[7132]: h5QGYD607130: 
> to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=esmtp, 
> pri=146494, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent
> ( 
> <5.2.1.1.0.20030626113344.02b9ead8 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for
> delivery)
> 
> Sent to announcement list by paul at bar.com - not received 
> paulfoobar at hotmail.com:
> Jun 25 22:39:55 svr01 sendmail[3603]: h5Q3dt603600: 
> to=<paulfoobar at hotmail.com>, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00,
> mailer=esmtp, 
> pri=87264, relay=mx3.hotmail.com. [65.54.253.99], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent ( 
> <5.2.1.1.0.20030625222958.033819b0 at mail.foobar.com> Queued mail for
> delivery)
> 
>       I am no expert on mail logs, but does this not show HotMail
> accepting 
> all three messages?  Any ideas?
> 
> 
> <>< Paul 

Subscribe this address to both of your lists (the one that fails to HotMail
and the one that works). I'll respond to the subscription verification
requests. Then send out test messages and I'll bounce back a full set of
headers so you can see if there is possibly something different aout the
failing list that may be causing HotMails spam filters to catch and discard
it.

G

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