[Mailman-Users] List users get a 'rejected' error, but the messages are posted

pod pod at fisica.urbenalia.com
Fri Oct 3 05:54:07 CEST 2003

Jon Carnes escribió:
> What email address did you send the message to initially?

To the post address of my (in this case, 
Canalfisica at fisica.urbenalia.com). All those messages reaches the list, 
but at the same time we get the error message. This seems to happens to 
*all* the users of the list.

> The message indicates that you sent mail to a mailman list that you were
> not authorized to send to.

Yes, but which list? The messages are really posted to my list, and the 
error comes from other direction.

> Send a note to the request address of the list and put as the subject:
> info
>   <listname>-request at fisica.urenalia.com
> This will send back information about the list - including it's real
> name and description.  If these don't match with *your* list, then there
> is a problem on the server with the aliases.  This is a problem that the
> admin of the server would have to fix.

I did it. I get two messages, one with the information of my list (from 
Canalfisica-bounces at fisica.urbenalia.com) and one from 
Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com. The later message contains the 
following headers:

List-Id: Mailman site list  <mailman.es.urbenalia.com>
X-List-Administrivia: yes

Since es.urbenalia.com is the internal name of the main server, this 
list should be created by the admin, but he said that he didn't. The 
problem might be that those two list recive all the emails, so 
mailman.es.urbenalia.com rejectes its copy.

If it is a problem with aliases, I don't know if the server admins knows 
how to fix it. Where in the documentation is this issue explained?

> If it comes back with your list information, then the problem is with
> your configuration of the list.  Make sure that your email address is
> valid and that you have rights to post. 
> Make sure you don't have any global filters that are denying folks.

Since the messages reaches the list, I think that this can't be the error.

> Good Luck - Jon Carnes

Thank you :)

> On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 20:29, pod wrote:
>>I'm the webmaster of http://fisica.urbenalia.com, which is hosted in a 
>>cPanel based server, urbenalia.com. That control panel comes with 
>>mailman 2.1.2. I've a list called 'Canalfisica' (with internal name 
>>Since a week ago, the list users get a rejected message (which I copy 
>>for you bellow), but the messages are posted correctly. This is strange 
>>because the rejection message comes from es.urbenalia.com (as you will 
>>see bellow) instead of fisica.urbenalia.com. The server's administrator 
>>said that es.urbenalia.com is the internal name of the server.
>>I looked at the mailman logs, but I didn't found the lines corresponding 
>>to the rejected messages. I wasn't able to found the answer in the 
>>documentation, nor in the faq. I think that this can't be a 
>>misconfiguration of the list, because it worked fine for two months and 
>>I didn't change anything.
>>The servers runs linux, kernel 2.4.20-20.7, with apache 1.3.28.
>>The rejection message that my users get, with the headers (I only have 
>>deleted the IP's of the private users), are like this:
>>Return-Path: <Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com>
>>Received: from tsmtp5.mail.isp ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) by mb32.terra.es
>>           (terra.es) with ESMTP id HM1SQB01.EJF for
>>           <pod.mailing at terra.es>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:20:35 +0200
>>Received: from es.urbenalia.com ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) by
>>           tsmtp5.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HM1SQ500.ATZ for
>>           <pod.mailing at terra.es>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:20:29 +0200
>>Received: from localhost ([] helo=es.urbenalia.com)
>>	by es.urbenalia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20)
>>	id 1A4Ss4-0000mI-6K
>>	for pod at fisica.urbenalia.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:21:28 +0200
>>Subject: JavaChat y Mensajes devueltos
>>From: Mailman-owner at es.urbenalia.com
>>To: pod at fisica.urbenalia.com
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
>>Message-ID: <mailman.8.1064960462.28394.mailman at es.urbenalia.com>
>>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:21:02 +0200
>>Precedence: bulk
>>X-BeenThere: Mailman at es.urbenalia.com
>>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2
>>List-Id: Mailman site list  <mailman.es.urbenalia.com>
>>X-List-Administrivia: yes
>>Sender: Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com
>>Errors-To: Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com
>>X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it 
>>with any abuse report
>>X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - es.urbenalia.com
>>X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fisica.urbenalia.com
>>X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
>>X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - es.urbenalia.com
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>MIME-Version: 1.0
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
>>been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
>>being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
>>Mailman-owner at es.urbenalia.com.
>>The original message was attached.
>>Thank you for your time,
>>Jaume (pod)

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