[Mailman-Users] List users get a 'rejected' error, but the messages are posted

[Jon Carnes]

Ah-Ha!

Sounds like you have a mailman list subscribed to *your* list.  Take a
look at your list membership and see if one of the subscribed emails is
going back to the server. 

Happy hunting!

Jon Carnes

On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 23:54, pod wrote:
> Jon Carnes escribió:
> > What email address did you send the message to initially?
> 
> To the post address of my (in this case, 
> Canalfisica at fisica.urbenalia.com). All those messages reaches the list, 
> but at the same time we get the error message. This seems to happens to 
> *all* the users of the list.
> 
> > The message indicates that you sent mail to a mailman list that you were
> > not authorized to send to.
> 
> Yes, but which list? The messages are really posted to my list, and the 
> error comes from other direction.
> 
> > Send a note to the request address of the list and put as the subject:
> > info
> >   <listname>-request at fisica.urenalia.com
> > 
> > This will send back information about the list - including it's real
> > name and description.  If these don't match with *your* list, then there
> > is a problem on the server with the aliases.  This is a problem that the
> > admin of the server would have to fix.
> 
> I did it. I get two messages, one with the information of my list (from 
> Canalfisica-bounces at fisica.urbenalia.com) and one from 
> Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com. The later message contains the 
> following headers:
> 
> List-Id: Mailman site list  <mailman.es.urbenalia.com>
> X-List-Administrivia: yes
> 
> Since es.urbenalia.com is the internal name of the main server, this 
> list should be created by the admin, but he said that he didn't. The 
> problem might be that those two list recive all the emails, so 
> mailman.es.urbenalia.com rejectes its copy.
> 
> If it is a problem with aliases, I don't know if the server admins knows 
> how to fix it. Where in the documentation is this issue explained?
> 
> > If it comes back with your list information, then the problem is with
> > your configuration of the list.  Make sure that your email address is
> > valid and that you have rights to post. 
> > Make sure you don't have any global filters that are denying folks.
> 
> Since the messages reaches the list, I think that this can't be the error.
> 
> > 
> > Good Luck - Jon Carnes
> 
> Thank you :)
> 
> > 
> > On Thu, 2003-10-02 at 20:29, pod wrote:
> > 
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I'm the webmaster of http://fisica.urbenalia.com, which is hosted in a 
> >>cPanel based server, urbenalia.com. That control panel comes with 
> >>mailman 2.1.2. I've a list called 'Canalfisica' (with internal name 
> >>canalfisica_fisica.urbenalia.com).
> >>
> >>Since a week ago, the list users get a rejected message (which I copy 
> >>for you bellow), but the messages are posted correctly. This is strange 
> >>because the rejection message comes from es.urbenalia.com (as you will 
> >>see bellow) instead of fisica.urbenalia.com. The server's administrator 
> >>said that es.urbenalia.com is the internal name of the server.
> >>
> >>I looked at the mailman logs, but I didn't found the lines corresponding 
> >>to the rejected messages. I wasn't able to found the answer in the 
> >>documentation, nor in the faq. I think that this can't be a 
> >>misconfiguration of the list, because it worked fine for two months and 
> >>I didn't change anything.
> >>
> >>The servers runs linux, kernel 2.4.20-20.7, with apache 1.3.28.
> >>
> >>The rejection message that my users get, with the headers (I only have 
> >>deleted the IP's of the private users), are like this:
> >>
> >>***********************************************************************
> >>Return-Path: <Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com>
> >>Received: from tsmtp5.mail.isp ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) by mb32.terra.es
> >>           (terra.es) with ESMTP id HM1SQB01.EJF for
> >>           <pod.mailing at terra.es>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:20:35 +0200
> >>Received: from es.urbenalia.com ([xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]) by
> >>           tsmtp5.mail.isp (terra.es) with ESMTP id HM1SQ500.ATZ for
> >>           <pod.mailing at terra.es>; Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:20:29 +0200
> >>Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=es.urbenalia.com)
> >>	by es.urbenalia.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20)
> >>	id 1A4Ss4-0000mI-6K
> >>	for pod at fisica.urbenalia.com; Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:21:28 +0200
> >>Subject: JavaChat y Mensajes devueltos
> >>From: Mailman-owner at es.urbenalia.com
> >>To: pod at fisica.urbenalia.com
> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>Content-Type: multipart/mixed; 
> >>boundary="===============026969976932705197=="
> >>Message-ID: <mailman.8.1064960462.28394.mailman at es.urbenalia.com>
> >>Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 00:21:02 +0200
> >>Precedence: bulk
> >>X-BeenThere: Mailman at es.urbenalia.com
> >>X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2
> >>List-Id: Mailman site list  <mailman.es.urbenalia.com>
> >>X-List-Administrivia: yes
> >>Sender: Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com
> >>Errors-To: Mailman-bounces at es.urbenalia.com
> >>X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it 
> >>with any abuse report
> >>X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - es.urbenalia.com
> >>X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - fisica.urbenalia.com
> >>X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12]
> >>X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - es.urbenalia.com
> >>
> >>--===============026969976932705197==
> >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>MIME-Version: 1.0
> >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >>
> >>You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has
> >>been automatically rejected.  If you think that your messages are
> >>being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at
> >>Mailman-owner at es.urbenalia.com.
> >>
> >>***********************************************************************
> >>
> >>The original message was attached.
> >>
> >>Thank you for your time,
> >>Jaume (pod)
> 
>