[Mailman-Users] Re: Getting caught by SPAM Filters because of Mailman handoff

Paul H Byerly paul at thcwd.com
Sat Apr 24 20:33:20 CEST 2004

On 11:00 AM 4/24/2004, mailman-users-request at python.org wrote:
>Companies are now starting to block Mailman lists (among others)
>because of the way the headers are sent out stating the hand-off to
>the server:

      I fear that mail lists will become an increasingly common victim of 
"friendly fire" in the war against spam.  The better a system is at getting 
rid of spam, the more false positives it causes.  Additionally many spam 
filters are not configured intelligently, often because the person who 
installed the system just did it "out of the box" and walked away.
      While I am all for the Mailman developers making reasonable efforts 
to avoid mm lists being caught as spam, the only real solution if for the 
folks setting up the spam filters, and the folks behind such filters, to 
get a clue.  The responsibility must be on the receiver, not the sender.
      An example:  I just got a message to a moderated list.  It an 
automated message from the spam block system for someone who signed up for 
the list.  The message said:

Here's all you have to do:

1. Press Reply.
2. In the body of the reply, type in my AntiSpam Passcode contained in the 
graphical attachment.
3. Press Send.

      Right.  Like I want to do that.  Like I can even get the image in the 
attachment on a list that strips attachments.  The clueless person who 
signed up for the list will just have to wonder why he is not getting list 

      My suggestion to the developers?  Add a reject option to the pending 
page that reads "You will not receive list mail because you are too stupid".

<>< Paul

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