[Mailman-Users] Re: Lists work, but no archives
mail at storydynamics.com
Fri Jul 23 06:01:09 CEST 2004
For the sake of any other newbies with similar problems, here is how
I got things to work.
1. I had foolishly neglected to finish the installation process.
Hints were supplied by Dan Phillips off-list:
At 11:59 AM -0500 7/18/04, Dan Phillips wrote:
>the most common causes of this are outlined in the FAQ at
>The MOST common cause in a new installation is that you haven't
>started the mailmanctl daemon.
2. But even after I finished the installation, none of the aliases
worked yet. The solution turns out to depend on sendmail, the default
MTA on Redhat Linux, and the fact that I'm running non-static virtual
domains (virtual domains that don't each have their own IP number).
The aliases in this case need to be in TWO places:
1. /etc/aliases - this is where the aliases go that Mailman's
reply message (after you create a new group) mentions.
2. the virtusertable for the domain you're using:
I found this somewhere, but can't find the reference. So here's the
two sets of aliases for a list called "supportivecoaching" on the
To add to /etc/aliases:
(then run newaliases)
To add to /scripts/storytellingcoach.com.virtusertable:
supportivecoaching at storytellingcoach.com supportivecoaching
supportivecoaching-admin at storytellingcoach.com supportivecoaching-admin
supportivecoaching-bounces at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-confirm at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-join at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-join at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-leave at storytellingcoach.com supportivecoaching-leave
supportivecoaching-owner at storytellingcoach.com supportivecoaching-owner
supportivecoaching-request at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-subscribe at storytellingcoach.com
supportivecoaching-unsubscribe at storytellingcoach.com
(it may help to restart sendmail at this point? I'm guessing)
Once these are added, the email functions start to work (confirmation
of new users via email, sending of emails to the list).
3. There was one more thing that confused me in the INSTALL file:
> - Find out where your Sendmail executes its smrsh wrapper
> % grep smrsh /etc/mail/sendmail.cf
> - Figure out where smrsh expects symlinks for allowable filter
> programs. At the very beginning of the following output you will
> see a full path to some directory, e.g. /var/adm/sm.bin or similar:
> % strings $path_to_smrsh | less
> - cd into /var/adm/sm.bin, or where ever it happens to reside on your
> system, such as /etc/smrsh, /var/smrsh or /usr/local/smrsh.
> % cd /var/adm/sm.bin
> - create a symbolic link to Mailman's wrapper program
> % ln -s /usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman mailman
This perplexed me, for two reasons. First, when I ran the grep smrsh
line, I found my way to a FILE called smrsh (not a directory).
Second, when I ran the "strings" command using that path, I got a
first line in the output that included a full path to
/lib/ld-linux.so.2, which was no use at all.
Lois Lew was kind enough to Google some pages of discussion about
this issue (e.g.,
Reading these finally set me right. The key is that, in Redhat, there
actually is a directory called smrsh, located at /etc/smrsh. When you
follow the directions using that path, everything works. (One note
about the discussions: in previous versions of Mailman, the term
"wrapper" was used instead of "mailman".)
4. The last issue was related to my complete ignorance about Apache.
I tried inserting the alias to pipermail and the ScriptAlias line (as
described in the INSTALL) into /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf . That
worked! But the next time I rebuilt Apache, Mailman stopped working.
It turns out that, at least in my installation, httpd.conf is rebuilt
every time, based on httpd.conf.main. Once I made the changes in
httpd.conf.main instead, everything worked - and is so far still
I hope this helps save some time for the next newbie down the road!
At 3:04 PM -0700 7/22/04, Alec Bennett wrote:
>Hey, I saw your posting about setting up Mailman on Redhat 9. Sounds
>having the exact same problems. Did you ever find a solution?
>I'm now to the point where administrative task emails go out (subscription
>notifications, etc.) but none of the actual list emails do, and the
>Thanks for any help, this is driving me crazy.
>This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/
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