[Mailman-Users] hotmail delivery status notification not processed

[Mark Sapiro]

ethan fremen wrote:
>
>I'm using Mailman 2.1.5, and I notice that all the DSN's that come from
>hotmail are sent on to the administrator.
>
>As far as I can tell they comply exactly with the RFC. I've included a
>component below.
>
>Maybe it's that DSN/check() is doing a get() instead of get_all() for
>the Action? I'm not sure.
>
>Let me know if there's anything I could do to help debug this. I'm not
>on the list so please CC me in any reply.
>
>--9B095B5ADSN=_01C4C90E84E48D34000878FBmc10?s12.hotmail
>Content-Type: message/delivery-status
>
>Reporting-MTA: dns;mc10-s12.hotmail.com
>Received-From-MTA: dns;mc10-f12.hotmail.com
>Arrival-Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:08:17 -0800
>
>Original-Recipient:
>Final-Recipient: rfc822;XXX at hotmail.com
>Action: delayed
>Status: 4.4.7
>Will-Retry-Until: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:08:17 -0800
>
>Original-Recipient:
>Final-Recipient: rfc822;YYY at hotmail.com
>Action: delayed
>Status: 4.4.7
>Will-Retry-Until: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:08:17 -0800
>
>Original-Recipient:
>Final-Recipient: rfc822;ZZZ at hotmail.com
>Action: delayed
>Status: 4.4.7
>Will-Retry-Until: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 00:08:17 -0800

I am on Mailman 2.1.4 and I see the same thing with Hotmail, but note
that the "unrecognized" bounces that you show and that I see as well
are delayed delivery warnings. If and when the actual undeliverable
bounce arrives, it is recognized and treated as a bounce.

The more interesting issue to me is what is screwed up with Hotmail.
This only happens with a few Hotmail users, but it happens reliably
with them. Also when the actual undeliverable bounce arrives, the
reason is one Hotmail server is unable to connect to another Hotmail
server.

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