[Mailman-Users] hotmail delivery status notification not processed

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Mon Nov 15 03:03:06 CET 2004

At 5:30 PM -0800 2004-11-14, Mark Sapiro wrote:

>  I am on Mailman 2.1.4 and I see the same thing with Hotmail, but note
>  that the "unrecognized" bounces that you show and that I see as well
>  are delayed delivery warnings. If and when the actual undeliverable
>  bounce arrives, it is recognized and treated as a bounce.

	True, but IMO these should be handled correctly by Mailman.  It 
should either ignore all delayed delivery warnings in all known 
formats, or it should treat them as a particular case of a bounce.

>  The more interesting issue to me is what is screwed up with Hotmail.
>  This only happens with a few Hotmail users, but it happens reliably
>  with them.

	I'll have to go back and check, but now that you mention it, I do 
seem to recall that there were a large number of messages which 
always referred to the same recipients.

>              Also when the actual undeliverable bounce arrives, the
>  reason is one Hotmail server is unable to connect to another Hotmail
>  server.

	Now that is something I hadn't noticed.  Thanks for the info!

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