AW: AW: [Mailman-Users] Unable to get Mailman up and running withqmail/vpopmail

DIGITAL FOR YOU - Alexander Schwethelm info at
Sat Nov 27 00:26:01 CET 2004

Terry, Mark and of course everybody else on the list,

I didn't want to sound rude or being not thankful about what the mailman
developers or ist community have done.  I really like mailman.  I am trying
to get mailman up and running for the past two weeks and I am doing this in
my sparetime for a hockey club for free.

All I meantis that it is very difficult to know what to do when everybody
and every tutorial is offering a different solution.  I understand that it
is possible to install mailman in any choosen location, but some basics
should be the same, at least when we all talk about the same mail client.
So when running mailman together with qmail/vpopmail the way is either to
use is -with-cgi-gid=mailman or -with-cgi-gid=VCHKPW.  Do you knwo what I am
trying to say?

When Jordi offered me his help and I really appreciate any help!!!  He/she
wrote -with-cgi-gid=apache.  In this case it is absolutely no problem to
understand that my Apache user/group is "nobody" so I would have to change
it to -with-cgi-gid=nobody.  So there I see differences on every system, but
I am missing a main road to success.  Why is that not possible?

So I hope everybody got my point now.  Thank you very much to all of you
offering support for free!!!


>Bryan, what do you say about this?  I believe qmail/vpopmail is a 
>pretty wide spreaded configuration by now and I don't understand why 
>the creators of mailman can't just say, that's the way to go, fullstop!
>Best regards,
Hi again,
	While it would be excellent to have everyone using the same, 
it's just never going to happen. Yes, qmail/vpopmail is relatively 
popular, but not even close to the extent of sendmail usage & also 
not close to Postfix either. Exim is also a popular choice, as are 
Courier-MTA & Communigate Pro along with qmail & a pile of others, so 
it's best to allow Mailman the extent of running with any mail server 
you care to run, depending on your configuration.
	The other problem developers also face is that people running 
a particular OS & MTA, such as your choice of qmail is that there are 
a myriad of configuration options for that, using different paths for 
directories & so on, such as the option of running Mailman in any 
directory so chosen, so I believe Mailman developers have don the 
best they can with what they have to work with.

	Bye for now, Terry Allen 

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