[Mailman-Users] Recent AOL thread

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Wed Oct 20 21:09:51 CEST 2004

At 12:04 PM -0500 2004-10-20, John Fleming wrote:

>  I don't think so, Mark.  This is an "announce-only" list, and the sender is
>  non-US, I think on a dialup.  Let's say the sender's IP or ISP is on the
>  blacklist.  Even though the list mail is finally coming from my server,
>  couldn't the presence of his IP or ISP in the message headers be enough to
>  trigger the blacklist?  - john

	This could certainly happen.  AOL could decide to scan any part 
of the message they want, to see if there is something they don't 
like.  The problem is that they rarely tell you anything truly useful 
about the particular problem they are complaining about, so you're 
left guessing.

	Mark is right.  The best answer you're going to get is in that 
FAQ entry.  Trust me, I know -- I was the Sr. Internet Mail 
Administrator for AOL, I know how their anti-spam stuff worked then, 
I have some idea of what they've done since, and I wrote that FAQ 
entry based on my extensive experience inside and outside of the 

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