[Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem

Gary Kaplan gary at gkgraphicdesigns.com
Fri Sep 24 05:48:52 CEST 2004

One of my users informed me that she got this message in which a couple
hundred address from the list were disclosed. I want to know if there is a
way to stop this. I don't want everyone who gets a probe message to see
everyone's email address. I have noted where the address are listed but left
the actual addresses off.

>This is a probe message.  You can ignore this message.
>The Upcnews mailing list has received a number of bounces from you,
>indicating that there may be a problem delivering messages to
>sue at jimgrisham.com. A bounce sample is attached below.  Please examine
>this message to make sure there are no problems with your email
>address.  You may want to check with your mail administrator for more
>If you are reading this, you don't need to do anything to remain an
>enabled member of the mailing list.  If this message had bounced, you
>would not be reading it, and your membership would have been disabled.
>Normally when you are disabled, you receive occasional messages asking
>you to re-enable your subscription.
>You can also visit your membership page at
>On your membership page, you can change various delivery options such
>as your email address and whether you get digests or not.  As a
>reminder, your membership password is
>     ahneda
>If you have any questions or problems, you can contact the list owner
>     Upcnews-owner at upc-online.org
>Received: from mailnull by washington.hostforweb.net with local (Exim 4.41)
>	id 1C9XAp-000348-CZ
>	for Upcnews-bounces at upc-online.org; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400

At this point it lists a couple hundred email addresses

Then is says this:

>Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
>From: Mail Delivery System <Mailer-Daemon at washington.hostforweb.net>
>To: Upcnews-bounces at upc-online.org
>Subject: Mail delivery failed: returning message to sender
>Message-Id: <E1C9XAp-000348-CZ at washington.hostforweb.net>
>Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:02:19 -0400
>This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.
>A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
>recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

and list the addresses again.

Gary Kaplan
GK Graphic Designs
Web Design, Graphic Design, Photography

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Knowles [mailto:brad at stop.mail-abuse.org]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 5:55 AM
To: Gary Kaplan
Cc: mailman-users at python.org
Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] Probe Message Problem

At 10:55 PM -0400 2004-09-20, Gary Kaplan wrote:

>  Untitled DocumentThe probe message that my list is sending out to members
>  who have had messages bounce list all the other users addresses who have
>  bounces. How can I fix this.

	Could you give us some more details as to precisely what your
problem is, so that we have some idea of what you want fixed?

	As a starting point, please see

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

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