[Mailman-Users] Umbella lists
r.barrett at openinfo.co.uk
Fri Sep 24 18:49:34 CEST 2004
On 24 Sep 2004, at 16:08, Chris Barnes wrote:
> I have a question about umbrella lists.
> I understand the concept (and use them on my Lsoft Listserv lists).
> what I am unsure about is how they are implemented in MM.
> Please correct my thinking here.
> If you have an umbrella list, it has a group of sublists to which it
> will re-distribute its messages, right? Then it should do these 2
> a) make sure that a person that is subscribed to multiple sublists only
> gets 1 copy of the message
> b) use it's own Subjectprefix (pre-empting the subject prefix of the
> The problem I have is that this is not what is happening. Our umbrella
> list is basically acting like the sublists are simple subscribers -
> meaning neither (a) nor (b) above is occurring.
Unfortunately you are saying what you think umbrella lists should do,
not understanding what MM does do with them, which is not very much.
What Mailman does is described in the help for the umbrella_list and
umbrella_member_suffix list attributes on the General Options page of
the Mailman admin web GUI.
If you want more then you will have to wait for Mailman's volunteer
developers to do it or become one and do it yourself.
umbrella_list (general): Send password reminders to, eg, "-owner"
address instead of directly to user.
Set this to yes when this list is intended to cascade only to other
mailing lists. When set, meta notices like confirmations and password
reminders will be directed to an address derived from the member's
address - it will have the value of "umbrella_member_suffix" appended
to the member's account name.
umbrella_member_suffix (general): Suffix for use when this list is an
umbrella for other lists, according to setting of previous
When "umbrella_list" is set to indicate that this list has other
mailing lists as members, then administrative notices like
confirmations and password reminders need to not be sent to the member
list addresses, but rather to the owner of those member lists. In that
case, the value of this setting is appended to the member's account
name for such notices. `-owner' is the typical choice. This setting
has no effect when "umbrella_list" is "No".
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