[Mailman-Users] listowners.org

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Fri Mar 4 08:28:48 CET 2005

At 8:12 PM -0600 2005-03-03, Willie McKemie wrote:

>  Now, I'm stuck (again).  Doing "~mailman/bin/list_members [listname] >
>  [listname]" created [listname] but left it empty.
>  Doing "~mailman/bin/list_lists > list_lists" created list_lists but
>  left it empty.

	Ahh.  These might be permissions problems.  You may have execute 
permissions to run the scripts, but you might not have read 
permissions to access the data.

>  So, it appears that I'm not really getting to my mailman data.
>  Probably some path problem that I don't understand.

	Could be, but I'd be willing to bet that it's actually a permissions issue.

	The only way to know for sure would be to get it working, and 
then figure out what had to be fixed.

>  Taking some other tacks, I have access to supposed mailman backup files.
>  Including there is a config.pck for each list.  The .pck files contain
>  the subscribers, but not in an easily decipherable form.  Any idea what
>  I might do with a .pck file?

	That's something you'd need to feed to one of the Mailman 
scripts.  With a local Mailman installation, a .pck file for a list, 
and the Mailman scripts, you should be able to do a list_members on 
that pickle file and have the system Do The Right Thing.

>  I just did a local install of mailman to try to better understand where
>  things are, but I haven't gotten it to start.  Probably because I don't
>  have a mail server.  I do have apache running on the same box that has
>  mailman.  Any suggestions on using a local mailman?  How to turn off the
>  expectation of actually sending mail?

	I don't know that being unable to send e-mail should be a 
problem.  I'd expect you to be able to get all the web admin stuff 
working fine.  However, in your case, I don't think either the web 
nor the mail admin stuff is necessary.

	What I think you want to be able to do is to apply the Mailman 
scripts to configuration files from your lists, and that should be 
do-able without either a mail server or a web server.

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

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