[Mailman-Users] MTAs

Brad Knowles brad at stop.mail-abuse.org
Fri Mar 25 23:14:15 CET 2005

At 1:48 PM -0800 2005-03-25, John W. Baxter wrote:

>  Debian woody notwithstanding, no one should be installing and running Exim 3
>  these days.  There is essentially no one readily available (eg, on the
>  exim-users mailing list) who remembers much about it.

	Think someone who already has Exim 3 on their legacy machine, and 
wants to upgrade Mailman but not anything else.  You'd be surprised 
how many people out there are in this position.

>  (After 10 years of reading Exim logs, and a few minutes reading Postfix
>  logs, I would reverse Brad's characterization (I don't know how configurable
>  Postfix's logging is...Exim can add or drop many aspects of the log
>  entries).  Actually, the Postfix logs look quite reasonable.)

	Indeed, that's one of the aspects I find most confusing about 
Exim's log information.  Trying to help out this one site, I ended up 
having to turn on all possible logging in order to get some clue as 
to what was going on, because it was totally unclear as to which 
particular little fiddly bit I needed to tweak in order to see the 
information I needed.

	Log configuration is an area where I consider Exim to be the 
weakest.  Conversely, this is an area where I think postfix shines.

Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>

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