[Mailman-Users] config.pck, apache, permissions and Errno 13

Sam Gamgee samwise-gamgee at web.de
Wed Sep 14 19:46:20 CEST 2005

On Wednesday 14 September 2005 19:29, you wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 18:45 +0200, Sam Gamgee wrote:
> > yes I have run check_perms several times.
> > I often get wrong group errors such as:
> >
> > /var/lib/mailman/logs/qrunner bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
> > /var/lib/mailman/logs/smtp bad group (has: list, expected mailman)
> >
> > I don't know what keep causing these, but so far they don't seem to have
> > any negative effects.
> If check_perms is reporting problems you've got problems you need to
> fix. By default check_perms only reports problems, it does not fix them,
> to fix them you need to supply the -f argument.
yes yes yes. I know that.
but the results are not permanent. My problem is trying to find out why.

> If your cgi wrappers are not group mailman then its setgid property is
> not going to work the way you expect. For instance if its group "list"
> then its going to execute as group "list" and the fact the files it
> references are -rw-rw---- mailman:mailman won't help because they are
> not in the group "list". Make sense?

which file permissions are wrong? which ones do I have to change?
check_perms -f changes get undone constantly and I don't know by what.

if check_perms reports some "group list and not mailman" stuff I don't 
experience any problems and nothing changes when I fix them.
When my web-interface doesn't work i.e.
ls -l /var/lib/mailman/lists/listname/
total 24
-rw-rw----    1 mailman  mailman      4284 Sep 14 12:00 config.pck
then it will not work regardless of what check_perms says or does.

all I know is: if I chown -R www-data /var/lib/mailman/lists then it works 


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