[Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems
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Wed Sep 21 18:29:50 CEST 2005
Christopher X. Candreva wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:
>>Here is the text of the emails. They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy
>>- especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender.
>> at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail.
> I would turn the problem around. Tell the hotmail users that hotmail is
> blocking their list mail, and they should contact hotmail and tell them to
> stop blocking their legit mail.
> Or, if it's not a business list, tell hotmail users they need to use a
> different address and move on. Send them all a gmail invite while you're at
That's what I recommend too. Your list subscribers are not getting
their list email because Hotmail is being unreasonable. Instead of
expecting you to jump thru hoops for Hotmail, it's perfectly reasonable
for you to put the shoe on the other foot and tell them to use a
different email provider that has more reasonable policies. When
Hotmail finds that they are losing users by droves they will stop
expecting all legitimate senders to jump thru these unreasonable hoops.
"The 'Net treats censorship as damage and routes around it." (John
Gilmore) In this case, the "censorship" is a side effect of Hotmail's
Bonded Sender program being badly implemented (saying that your mail
server can only "speak" to their mail server if it participates in
Bonded Sender) and rejecting legitimate email. Route around it by
assisting your Hotmail users in getting another email account.
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