[Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems

[Lloyd F. Tennison]

Since I do webhosting the SNDS system uses SPF, and SPF does not work 
if you do mail forwarding.  Mail gets denied and end up stuck in my mail 
queue.  The only way is to repackage the email (per SPF website) but then if I 
forward a repackaged piece of SPAM, it looks now like it came from me. and I 
get blamed!  That's why SPF cannot work in this design - or it seems in any 
webhosting scenario.




Date sent:      	Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:04:38 +0200
To:             	lloyd at viplist.us
From:           	Brad Knowles <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>
Copies to:      	mailman-users at python.org
Subject:        	Re: [Mailman-Users] Hotmail Delivery Problems

> At 12:41 AM -0700 2005-09-21, Lloyd F. Tennison wrote:
> 
> >  Here is the text of the emails.  They are pushing the BondedSender like crazy
> >  - especially since I received an email direct from BondedSender.
> >   at the address I only used with this ticket to hotmail.
> >
> >  An awful lot of passing the buck and saying the same thing over and over
> >  again.
> 
> 	You can certainly try their SNDS system, and try to follow 
> whatever guidelines they have at their postmaster website.  As far as 
> that goes, it doesn't sound significantly different from what AOL 
> does.
> 
> 	However, at some point it sounds to me like you will probably 
> need to decide how much you want your e-mail to get through their 
> filters.  If you want it badly enough, then you will probably pay to 
> use their bonded sender program.  Otherwise, you may be forced to 
> eliminate all hotmail users from your lists, or at least live with 
> the fact that most mail from you to hotmail is going to be blocked or 
> dropped.
> 
> 
> 	Good luck!  If you find out anything that you think may be of 
> interest to the broader mail list admin community, please let us know.
> 
> -- 
> Brad Knowles, <brad at stop.mail-abuse.org>
> 
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