[Mailman-Users] message body is blank for some users

Heal Secretary secretary at healheadingley.org.uk
Tue Aug 1 21:35:54 CEST 2006

Dear Brad, Mark, Dragon and others

Further to this problem.... (some user's mailings to the list are 
sent to the list with a blank body), I have taken your advice.......

At 21:58 31/5/06, you wrote:
>Check your settings.  Have the user send you a message directly, 
>then use whatever techniques your MUA allows you to have to see all 
>the messy headers and MIME body structure.  If you don't have an MUA 
>that lets you see all that, you'll need to get an MUA that will.

The direct message from my user, Jonathan, is copied below. Can 
anyone see why Jonathan's mailings would be sent to the list with a blank body?

Many thanks for any advice, and please word your reply for a biffo

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<P>Hi Nigel, </P>
<P>Re Sent my reply email a few mins ago and&nbsp;it's blank again!! 
Shame, as its a good one!</P>
<P>The Bcc I sent to myself was fine, so it seems to be something 
wrong at your end.</P>
<P>Below is a copy of the the email text I am trying to send!!</P>
<P>Value of Cost?<BR><BR>Could this (proposed?!) car park development 
in an inner city urban green space, seemingly either to help car 
travelers to park in someone else's back-yard and/or to raise income 
for a Department of the Council, and certainly in contradiction of 
any Sustainable Development Policy that the Council is apparently 
signed up to, be summed up as the councilors concerned knowing the 
cost of everything and the value of nothing, or maybe&nbsp;I have 
missed something here?</P>
<DIV class=RTE>Alan, in response to your email; there is trust in 
people, trust in community involvement, trust in councilors&nbsp;and 
trust in local government and trust in the need to defend the 
environment against all the vagaries of human decision making systems. </DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>There always seems to be a hidden interest 
(unintentionally, overt or not) trying to bulldozing through what 
community, green space and local environments we have left! It seems 
to be part of 20th Century's man and woman governance that we need to 
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Perhaps we could suggest that the Leeds Millennium 
Square be turned into a tarmac car park and deny its view and space 
to public use?. That would look lovely! And they want to do this to 
our open park spaces in the inner city! Back off! </DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Regards&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>Jonathan</DIV>
<DIV class=RTE>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Rich T 
&lt;followfoucault at gmail.com&gt;</I><BR>Reply-To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>for 
local activists 
&lt;activists at healheadingley.org.uk&gt;</I><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>a.slomson at leeds.ac.uk,for 
local activists &lt;activists at healheadingley.org.uk&gt;,William 
&lt;mackius at mac.com&gt;</I><BR>CC:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>justchill at tiscali.co.uk, 
isobelsidebottom at hotmail.com,barrie.payne1 at virgin.net, 
activists at healheadingley.org.uk,Christine Bethlehem 
&lt;chris.bethlehem at ntlworld.com&gt;</I><BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Re: 
[activists] Woodhouse Moor Car Park Proposal - Oliver Cross 
article</I><BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Fri, 05 May 2006 11:18:26 
+0100</I><BR>&gt;Alan, you're absolutely right - and this point has 
been raised<BR>&gt;frequently at Headingley 
Forum.&nbsp;&nbsp;Unfortunately, despite the coverage<BR>&gt;of our 
area by bottom-up groups, the Council remains committed
to<BR>&gt;top-down - and often, not even that.&nbsp;&nbsp;Richard 
T<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;At 08:12 05/05/2006, Alan Slomson wrote:<BR>&gt; 
&gt;This story, the story of the Headingley Run last Sunday, and the 
problems with<BR>&gt; &gt;Headingley Stadium have a common feature: 
inadequate consultation of local<BR>&gt; &gt;people by the Council. 
This seems to me to be a systematic failure which needs<BR>&gt; 
&gt;to be addressed over and above concerns about particular 
cases.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Councillors are busy people, often 
doing full time jobs on top of<BR>&gt; &gt;Council work,<BR>&gt; 
&gt;so the problem needs to be dealt with at the level of Council 
officers.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Given that in the area there are a 
number of well established community groups<BR>&gt; &gt;with fairly 
well defined spheres of interest, and that electronic<BR>&gt; 
&gt;communication<BR>&gt; &gt;is now so
easy, it should not be difficult to develop a system where 
community<BR>&gt; &gt;groups get frequent advance notice of matters 
that might be of<BR>&gt; &gt;concern to them.<BR>&gt; &gt;Once such a 
system has been established, it should not take too much effort 
to<BR>&gt; &gt;operate. But, perhaps more importantly, both Council 
officials and Councillors<BR>&gt; &gt;need to be firmly committed to 
this sort of early consultation, and<BR>&gt; &gt;that has to<BR>&gt; 
&gt;be a real will to implement it.<BR>&gt; &gt;--<BR>&gt; &gt;Alan 
Slomson<BR>&gt; &gt;20 Grosvenor Park Gardens<BR>&gt; 
&gt;Leeds<BR>&gt; &gt;LS6 2PL<BR>&gt; &gt;e-mail: 
a.slomson at leeds.ac.uk<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;Quoting 
William McKinnon &lt;mackius at mac.com&gt; on Fri 05 May 2006 07:06:29 
BST:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Dear Friends of Woodhouse 
Moor<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Oliver Cross had a
very interesting article in last Friday's YEP about the<BR>&gt; &gt; 
&gt; proposed car park.&nbsp;&nbsp;In case you didn't see it, I've 
attached it to this<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; email.<BR>&gt; &gt; 
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Regards.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
Bill McKinnon<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 225 2700<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; 
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; 
PS.&nbsp;&nbsp;Mr Cross was one of those who attended last Thursday's 
drop-in.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; 
list<BR>&gt;activists at healheadingley.org.uk<BR>&gt;http://mail.healheadingley.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/activists_healheadingley.org.uk<BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Heal Secretary 
&lt;secretary at healheadingley.org.uk&gt;</I><BR>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>"Jonathan" 
&lt;Jonathan's email address&gt;</I><BR>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Re: 
Blank replies</I><BR>Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;<I>Sat, 06 May 2006 20:32:35 
+0100</I><BR>&gt;Hi Jonathan<BR>&gt;Thanks for letting me know about 
this.<BR>&gt;I've just got back from holiday (Why does something odd 
always have <BR>&gt;to happen when I'm away!)<BR>&gt;I've no idea 
what this is, but I'll look into it. It may take me a <BR>&gt;bit of 
tinkering to diagnose the problem.<BR>&gt;I see what you mean about 
the blank email - I got it too.<BR>&gt;Can you please re-send your 
message, to the Activists? Please let me <BR>&gt;know if it works 
this time.<BR>&gt;Many thanks<BR>&gt;Nigel<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;At 
14:26 5/5/06, you 
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Hi,<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;am I being gaged or is
something wrong technically?. When I sent a <BR>&gt;&gt;reply to the 
acitivist list today ( Re: [activists] Woodhouse Moor <BR>&gt;&gt;Car 
Park Proposal) the email&nbsp;&nbsp;reply was blank. Is it something 
with <BR>&gt;&gt;Richard T's email??<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;On the 
blank email was a subscribtion link, which I have tried and 
<BR>&gt;&gt;I since gor an email saying that an attempt was made to 
subscribe ( <BR>&gt;&gt;it was me!!)<BR>&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt;&gt;Please 
help as I want to 
973 370<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;Secretary of Heal<BR>&gt;Campaigning for a 
Sustainable Balanced 
Community<BR>&gt;www.healheadingley.org.uk<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;If you want 
to post items of interest to Headingley residents, use <BR>&gt;the 
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