[Mailman-Users] Weirdness

[Lawrence Bowie]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Lawrence Bowie wrote:
>> username at domain.org is the subscribed address.
>>
>>
>> The headers are as follows:
>>
>>
>> From username at domain.org  Fri Jan 27 19:25:04 2006
>> Return-Path: <username at domain.org>
>> X-Original-To: listname at lists.domain.org
>> Delivered-To: listname at lists.domain.org
>> Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>>         by lists.domain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990FD6780B0
>>         for <listname at lists.domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:04 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from lists.domain.org ([127.0.0.1])
>>         by localhost (lists.domain.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new,
>>         port 10024) with ESMTP id 11514-08
>>         for <listname at lists.domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:04 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: by lists.domain.org (Postfix, from userid 1005)
>>         id 51999678112; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:04 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from mail.domain.org (mail.domain.org [216.93.165.132])
>>         (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits))
>>         (No client certificate requested)
>>         by lists.domain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395866780A9
>>         for <listname at lists.domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:03 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: by mail.domain.org (Postfix)
>>         id 1D7E0128004; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:03 -0800 (PST)
>> Delivered-To: listname at domain.org
>> Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>>         by mail.domain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F527850439
>>         for <listname at domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:03 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from mail.domain.org ([127.0.0.1])
>>         by localhost (mail.domain.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new,
>>         port 10024)
>>         with ESMTP id 11298-09 for <listname at domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:02 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: by mail.domain.org (Postfix, from userid 1005)
>>         id ED9CE850E5C; Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:02 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from base2.domain.org (gforge.domain.org
>>         [207.235.77.148])
>>         by mail.domain.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA40850439
>>         for <listname at domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:25:01 -0800 (PST)
>> Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=base2.domain.org)
>>         by hostname.domain.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian))
>>         id 1F2ghw-0001Qk-00 for <listname at domain.org>;
>>         Fri, 27 Jan 2006 22:25:00 -0500
>> From: User Name <username at domain.org>
>> To: listname at domain.org
> 
> It certainly looks as though that should have been accepted.
> 
> What is in Mailman's 'vette' log for this post? If that doesn't provide
> the answer, I would try the following:
> 
> In Mailman/Handlers/Moderate.py, find the following:
> 
> ----------------------------------------
>     else:
>         sender = msg.get_sender()
>     # From here on out, we're dealing with non-members.
> ----------------------------------------
> 
> Change the this to:
> 
> ----------------------------------------
>     else:
>         sender = msg.get_sender()
>     # From here on out, we're dealing with non-members.
>     syslog('vette',
>            'Non member post. get_senders() = %s get_sender() = %s',
>            str(msg.get_senders()), sender)
> -----------------------------------------
> 
> This will create an entry in the 'vette' log (preceding the normal held
> post entry) for every non-member post. which in addition to the
> 'sender' from get_sender() also contains the list of senders from
> get_senders(). It is this list that is validated for membership. The
> post is considered from a list member if any of the get_senders()
> addresses is a list member.
> 

I have not tried the above but it is asking for confirmation because the posts 
are from legitimate automatic engines that send email. The list does not know 
how to distinguish between SPAM and a legitimate automatic post.

Any ideas on resolving this dilemma?

Thanks,

LDB