[Mailman-Users] Using a remote email account as a message source

BigglesZX biggleszx at gmail.com
Sat Oct 14 20:35:29 CEST 2006

Okay, straying from topic further here, but you've already been so
helpful I'm hoping you might have a further solution to this :-).

I took the plunge and removed the mailman Debian package, and
installed from source. This has sorted the group mismatch problem from
before; my problem is now possibly more of an Exim issue I'm afraid,
but might still have something to do with a mailman problem.

If I use a local mail account (using mutt) to send a message to
listname at localhost, the message is passed through fine - goes out on
to the list.

If, however, I send the message to the remote account checked by
fetchmail, then run fetchmail to retrieve the message, it does not
make it to the list. Fetchmail is set up to pass on to
listname at localhost just as above, and a reading of the exim log gives
the impression that it has passed through okay, but then once the
administrative approval request mail is generated to the list admin,
that message gets frozen with the following error:

2006-10-14 19:26:57 1GYoDp-00066c-Ec ** listname-bounces at my.FQDN.com:
Unrouteable address

I thought I had configured exim to accept mail to this domain
correctly, but perhaps not - my question is why mailman won't deliver
the post to the list when it is sent in this manner.

The only difference between the two sendings is the sender's address -
the post goes through when the sender is @localhost or my FQDN - or to
put it another way, no admin message is generated when the mail
originates from the local machine. Have I missed a configuration
option relating to mail originating from the local machine?

Thanks once again for your time, and apologies for my departure from
the original topic.


On 14/10/06, Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net> wrote:
> BigglesZX wrote:
> >Okay, the problem was with my MTA - Exim was not set up to play with
> >mailman, so after following the advice given in the Exim-mailman
> >readme, I have made some progress. The test messages sent previously
> >were being frozen by Exim because it was not correctly set up to
> >handle messages to mailman.
> I don't know which Exim-mailman readme you followed, but some of our
> documentation is not complete. See
> <http://www.exim.org/howto/mailman21.html>.
> >The problem now is with group mismatch - my mails are getting through
> >to mailman but the following is returned as an error:
> >
> >  Group mismatch error.  Mailman expected the mail
> >  wrapper script to be executed as group "daemon", but
> >  the system's mail server executed the mail script as
> >  group "Debian-exim".
> If you are setting 'user' and 'group' in your Exim Mailman transport,
> and they are not effective, it is because you are not starting Exim as
> root. According to the above, you should be setting 'group' to
> 'daemon' or to some macro (MAILMAN_GROUP or MM_GROUP depending on what
> docs you followed) which is set to 'daemon'.
> If you installed from source, you could instead rerun configure with
> the option --with-mail-gid=Debian-exim and then 'make install'.
> There may also be some Debian package way to change the group expected
> by the wrappers, but I don't know what that is.
> You may find
> <http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq06.016.htp>
> of interest.
> --
> Mark Sapiro <msapiro at value.net>       The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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