[Mailman-Users] Mailman Daemon RunLevel Question

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Sun Nov 25 22:08:50 CET 2007

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Jacques Dailey wrote:
> I have Mailman configured on my SuSE 10.1 system, using the Postfix MTA 
> and ASSP (Anti Spam SMTP Proxy) on the front end.  So far everything is 
> running great!  Most recently, I started looking at how/when the 
> individual apps started up and shut down, as I've had a couple of 
> unplanned bounces that shut down email for a bit.  ASSP is now 
> configured to start at runlevel 5, right after Postfix.
> My question: I see a startup/shutdown script for Mailman in rc.d, but it 
> doesn't seem to be linked to any particular runlevel (running Mailman 
> 2.1).  How/where is the Mailmanctl daemon launched, and what are the 
> dependencies?  I'm assuming the MTA and ASSP should be up and running 
> first, along with Apache.  Correct?

These are really SuSE packaging questions, but here's some general

Mailman doesn't care. The Mailman web interface does not require Mailman
 (mailmanctl and the qrunners) to be running. It doesn't matter if
Mailman starts before or after Apache.

The incoming MTA can queue messages for Mailman whether or not Mailman
is running. It makes no difference to the incoming MTA.

The only thing that makes a difference is if there are queued messages
when Mailman starts, Mailman will attempt to deliver them (or notices
about them) to the outgoing MTA. It is not a problem if the outgoing MTA
is not running; Mailman will retry, but in order to avoid various
'failure' log messages and the associated retries, it is good to start
the outgoing MTA before Mailman.

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