Tom Ray [Lists]
lists at blazestudios.com
Thu Oct 25 18:52:19 CEST 2007
Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:
>> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>> This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of
>>> the outgoing message instead of the incoming message.
>> So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly then that some of those
>> message could be valid posts made by members since this list was around
>> since 2.1.4 or so?
> These are all valid posts made by list members. Everything in the
> 'post' log should be a valid post to the list. Occasionally, when
> there is an smtp-failure on a mailman generated message (say a reject
> of spam with a forged non-existant local address), you can get a
> failure entry in the post log even though the message wasn't a post,
> but if you filter out the failures (or the
> mailman.nnnn.nnnnnn.nnnn.list at domain message-ids), everything else is
> a legitimate list post.
> Note that these failures appear in the mmdsr report under Other
> Messages:->Log file: post.
Thanks. That helps a lot.
>> Thanks for the information. I'm tearing apart the post log because I
>> want to get the total size of the message. Then I need to figure out how
>> many emails where sent so I can figure out bandwidth usage. I mean if
>> they send a 10K file to a list with 1,000 members that's a lot of
>> bandwidth to send out.
> Yes, but if you want to be truly accurate, you also have to look at
> your MTA logs.
> For example, if a 10K message is sent to a list with 1000 members, and
> the list is not personalized, and the message is not VERPed in
> Mailman, mailman might deliver this to the MTA in say 5 transactions
> with 200 recipients each for a total exchange between Mailman and the
> MTA of about 50K plus the address list.
> The MTA in turn might batch delivery so if say 50 of those 1000
> recipients are in the aol.com domain, the MTA might send one 10K +
> transaction to AOL for all 50, rather that sending 10K 50 times.
I see what you are saying. I'll write something to dig through my Exim
logs and see what I can come up with.
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