[Mailman-Users] Reporting

[Tom Ray [Lists]]

Mark Sapiro wrote:
> Tom Ray [Lists] wrote:
>
>   
>> Mark Sapiro wrote:
>>     
>>> This is a bug in Mailman pre 2.1.7 that logged the envelope sender of
>>> the outgoing message instead of the incoming message.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> So I'm sure I'm understanding you correctly then  that some of those 
>> message could be valid posts made by members since this list was around 
>> since 2.1.4 or so?
>>     
>
>
> These are all valid posts made by list members. Everything in the
> 'post' log should be a valid post to the list. Occasionally, when
> there is an smtp-failure on a mailman generated message (say a reject
> of spam with a forged non-existant local address), you can get a
> failure entry in the post log even though the message wasn't a post,
> but if you filter out the failures (or the
> mailman.nnnn.nnnnnn.nnnn.list at domain message-ids), everything else is
> a legitimate list post.
>
> Note that these failures appear in the mmdsr report under Other
> Messages:->Log file: post.
>
>
>   
Thanks. That helps a lot.
>   
>> Thanks for the information. I'm tearing apart the post log because I 
>> want to get the total size of the message. Then I need to figure out how 
>> many emails where sent so I can figure out bandwidth usage. I mean if 
>> they send a 10K file to a list with 1,000 members that's a lot of 
>> bandwidth to send out.
>>     
>
>
> Yes, but if you want to be truly accurate, you also have to look at
> your MTA logs.
>
> For example, if a 10K message is sent to a list with 1000 members, and
> the list is not personalized, and the message is not VERPed in
> Mailman, mailman might deliver this to the MTA in say 5 transactions
> with 200 recipients each for a total exchange between Mailman and the
> MTA of about 50K plus the address list.
>
> The MTA in turn might batch delivery so if say 50 of those 1000
> recipients are in the aol.com domain, the MTA might send one 10K +
> transaction to AOL for all 50, rather that sending 10K 50 times.
>
>   
I see what you are saying. I'll write something to dig through my Exim 
logs and see what I can come up with.