[Mailman-Users] What happened to my archive? Why isn't the archive process running?

TGPlatt, WebMaster webwitchcraft at webwitchcraft.com
Thu Oct 30 03:03:26 CET 2008

It looks to me like check_perms has a hole in it, Mark. If you take a close
look at the error I've been getting repeatedly since early July (see below),
you'll see it consistently occurs on the index.html table in the
/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mylist directory. Here are the
permissions on that file:

12 -rw-r--r--  1 mailman mailman   11452 Oct 20 07:01 index.html

Please note that the permissions on that file are 644 and not 664. I just
ran check_perms on this account. It reported "No Problems Found". Yet when
Archrunner runs and tries to open that file to replace it, it reports a
permissions error for that file. In short, check_perms reports those 644
permissions are just fine while you're telling me they should be 664 and
ARCHrunner complains they're NOT fine. This suggests to me check_perms isn't
doing its job very well.

Am I wrong about this?

Here's the error ARCHrunner has been reporting repeatedly since early

Oct 28 10:09:30 2008 (2589) Uncaught runner exception: [Errno 13] Permission
denied: '/usr/local/mailman/archives/private/mylist/index.html'
Oct 28 10:09:30 2008 (2589) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 120, in _oneloop
    self._onefile(msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/Runner.py", line 191, in _onefile
    keepqueued = self._dispose(mlist, msg, msgdata)
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Queue/ArchRunner.py", line 73, in
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/Archiver.py", line 217, in
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/pipermail.py", line 324, in
  File "/usr/local/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py", line 1097, in
    toc = open(os.path.join(self.basedir, 'index.html'), 'w')
IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied:

What am I missing here?

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Sapiro [mailto:mark at msapiro.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 5:50 PM
To: webwitchcraft at webwitchcraft.com; mailman-users at python.org
Subject: RE: [Mailman-Users] What happened to my archive? Why isn't the
archive process running?

TGPlatt, WebMaster wrote:
>Now can we talk about the proper ownership of all the mailman files both IN
>/usr/local/mailman directory structure and in the UserAccount/mailman
>directory as well? Shouldn't all (or most of) these files be owned by
>mailman / mailman? Is that also true in the /archives/private/mylist
>directory? What about over in the /home/mylist/www directory? Who should
>the mailman directory there?
>I have run bin/check_perms several times but it doesn't complain about any

check_perms should complain about ownership and permission problems.

Assuming mailman's home directory is NOT /usr/local/mailman and
assuming that prefix, and var_prefix are /usr/local/mailman, mailman's
home directory is irrelevant.

In general everything from /usr/local/mailman on down should be group
mailman (owner doesn't matter) and directories need to be g+rws and
files g+rw.

See the post at
Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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