[Mailman-Users] AOL Redacting

Brad Knowles brad at shub-internet.org
Fri Sep 19 20:52:19 CEST 2008

Lloyd Tennison wrote:

> Has anyone written a script that can take the emails from AOL with the 
> redacted address and have it find the correct email address in the maillog? 
> There was a thread that talked about it, but I do not see that anyone did 
> it.

My employer is large enough that we actually have a designated contact at 
AOL.  When we recently discussed our displeasure with all the information 
they were redacting, we were told that they do not currently redact any 
"Delivered To: user at example.com" information that is recorded in any 
footers, so that would be one potential thing you could enable.

Of course, that doesn't help for those sites who aren't running mailing 
lists, but instead have local users who forward their e-mail to AOL.  And 
that doesn't help anyone who is running mailing lists but cannot (for 
whatever reason) enable personalization and VERP, including personalization 
of footers that are attached to e-mail messages.

We were pointed to the tools at 
<http://wordtothewise.com/resources/arfrecipient.html>, but that is 
apparently as far as they are willing to go.

Personally, I'm about ready to get together with a few other people and 
rewrite the RFC describing the ARF format, and update it such that you 
cannot possibly be compliant with the 2.0 format if you redact any 
information whatsoever.  Then the entire Internet can beat the holy living 
crap out of them for not being 2.0 format compliant.

And I say this as the former Sr. Internet Administrator for AOL.

Brad Knowles <brad at shub-internet.org>
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