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Larry Stone lstone19 at stonejongleux.com
Sat Aug 28 19:21:09 CEST 2010

On 8/28/10 10:47 AM, Steve Burling at srb at umich.edu wrote:

> --On August 28, 2010 10:32:15 AM -0500 Brad Knowles
> <brad at shub-internet.org> wrote:
>> After that, we might think about whether or not we can, or should, go
>> after Apple.  Both companies are shipping our code with extensive
>> modifications, and so far as I know neither of them has released their
>> changes, as required by the GNU license.
> To which I reply:
> For what it's worth, I dif'd Apple's Mailman code against the stock code at
> one point, and I wouldn't describe the changes as extensive.  The primary
> change was the addition of a version of 'mailmanctl start' that wouldn't
> daemonize, in order to work properly with Apple's launchd.

I know I've mentioned this before but worth repeating. I run Mailman built
from source on Mac OS X Client. Startup was a problem because of daemonizing
but more or less solved by having launchd run a script that ran 'mailmanctl
start' and then waited a second before exiting. Trying to run 'mailmanctl
start' directly from the launchd plist tended to fail due to the launchd
process exiting before mailman could daemonize. Since it daemonizes, launchd
can't monitor it (it's 'Run at Load' and then launchd is out of the picture)
so I deal with Mailman dying on me by having an hourly cron job that checks
for the proper number of qrunners and sends me mail if it's wrong (Mailman
is far, far from mission critical in my environment).

Larry Stone
lstone19 at stonejongleux.com

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