[Mailman-Users] Mailman and Gmane ?

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Thu Jan 21 01:51:21 CET 2010

John Fitzsimons wrote:
>If I try your address I think it would translate to..
>I then get..
>xxxxxxmailinglist Private Archives Authentication
>Private archive file not found

It translates to


where mydomain is your host name and mymailinglist is the cPanel list
name of the form listname_mydomain. Note that mymailinglist.mbox
appears twice, as a directory and a file.

>>>So now, here is my next question. 
>>>If I setup the Gmane address for "moderation" and then put the
>>>subscriber's address in under....
>>>"List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
>>>Would that help to plug the Gmane "hole" ? In other words restrict
>>>posting from Gmane to only those who are listed as subscribers ?
>>>Can anyone here answer that question and/or express a view on the
>>>possibility of this approach working please ?
>>It is complicated as I indicated in my original reply. It would help if
>>You went to an archive URL based on the template I gave and actually
>>found a message.
>I have no difficulty finding a message in my archive. It is finding
>header info that is the problem.

The header is in the raw mailbox which I'm trying to tell you how to

Even lacking that, much (but unfortunately with a few critical bits
changed) of the header is in the message sent to list members.

>>But, the answer to your exact question is No. In your scenario, the
>>post will presumably be 'from' the Gmane address so it will be hels as
>>a post from a moderated member. *_these_nonmembers only applies to
>>non-member posts.
>>Now, you could make all those authorized posters members of your list
>>(perhaps with no mail delivery and no password reminders), and that
>>would work if the posts are From: them. Then I think you could
>>moderate the Gmane address, and if it's  the envelope sender, and/or
>>Sender:, the member address in From: will take priority and determine
>>what is done with the post.
>Yes, I "think" you are confirming what I am thinking of trying out. To
>block ("moderate") everything from Gmane and then add all my
>subscribers in the.... 
>"List of non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
>So, this list would actually be working as a form of "White List".

No! I am not confirming that. If the Gmane address is a moderated
member, you will never get to accept_these_nonmembers ("List of
non-member addresses whose postings should be automatically
accepted.") because this only applies to non-member posts and the post
will be from a moderated member.

Either the Gmane address is not a member at all, or the 'white-listed'
addresses have to be members, which I *think* will have priority
because they are in From:

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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