[Mailman-Users] Mailman-Users Digest, Vol 79, Issue 40

[kobi barnea]

hi
im starting with mailman - it looks like a good solution for me and my group
however, i have it installed, subscribed myself to the list and my friend
but i dont get emails from the system
not a notification of subscription mail and not test mail i sent to the main
mailman email address i configured

please advice !!!

barnea


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>   1. 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather    than    sender?
>      (Stephen J. Turnbull)
>   2. Re: 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather
>      thansender? (Mark Sapiro)
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> ---------- הודעה שהועברה ----------
> From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen at xemacs.org>
> To: Christopher Adams <adamsca at gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 10:13:20 +0900
> Subject: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather
> than sender?
> Christopher Adams writes:
>  > I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with
>  > 'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list
>  > name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if
>  > the list is set up this way?
>
> I believe that the list can be set to acknowledge receipt to the
> poster.
>
> If you want the poster to get acks from each recipient individually,
> it can be done, but AFAIK (a) you have to modify the Mailman code and
> (b) bounce processing becomes the responsibility of the poster,
> because "sender" is where many (most) software will send error
> notices, regardless of other settings.
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> ---------- הודעה שהועברה ----------
> From: Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>
> To: Christopher Adams <adamsca at gmail.com>, mailman-users at python.org
> Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 19:57:51 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Mailman-Users] 'ack' doesn't work when sending as list rather
> thansender?
> Christopher Adams wrote:
>
> >I just figured out that a sender can only get an acknowledgment with
> >'ack' checked if the list is sending as the sender as opposed to list
> >name. Is there anyway that a sender can get an acknowledgment even if
> >the list is set up this way?
>
>
> By "sending as ... list name" I'm assuming you mean the list is
> anonymous, i.e., General Options -> anonymous_list = Yes.
>
> The issue here is the CookHeaders.py handler saves the original From:
> or other sender for use by the Acknowledge.py handler in sending the
> 'ack', but for an anonymous lists, the Cleanse.py handler which
> removes all the sender information comes ahead of CookHeaders in the
> pipeline.
>
> I actually broke this inadvertently in Mailman 2.1.13, and now I'll
> have to figure out what to do about that. The issue is that for
> anonymous lists, Cleanse removes the From:, Reply-To: and Sender:
> headers from the post. This causes the get_sender() method used by
> CookHeaders to get the original sender to fall back to the Unix from
> (envelope sender). The issue is that in 2.1.13, I "improved"
> anonymizing by munging the Unix from in anonymized posts to the list
> address, so now CookHeaders fets the list address as the sender when
> saving the original sender, and since this is generally not a list
> member with 'ack' true, no ack is sent.
>
> I suppose the easiest fix is to have Cleanse rather than CookHeaders
> save the original sender. One could also reorder the pipeline to put
> Cleanse after CookHeaders, but I'm not sure at this point if there
> would be unintended consequences from that.
>
> I'll follow up with a patch when I work this out.
>
> --
> Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
> San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan
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