[Mailman-Users] Custom Pages

Mark Sapiro mark at msapiro.net
Thu Jun 6 05:52:32 CEST 2013

On 06/05/2013 07:49 PM, Janice Boothe wrote:
> --- On Wed, 6/5/13, Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net> wrote:
> :I'm not concerned about the users who will make their own customized,
> :translated pages. I'm concerned about those who don't want to.
> Therein is the rub.  This is (close to) the big issue that many have with Microsoft.  Their nazi programming practices boil down to 'you will use our software the way we think it should look and you will like it" in that they offer very little customization (think IE v. FF).  As programmers we ought to not be unconcerned with any of our end users.

The difference is it's open source, not Microsoft proprietary. If you
want a feature that's not supported, you have the code and the right to
modify it in any way you wish or to pay someone else to do it for you,
and if you wish, contribute your code back to the project.

Also, my attitude would be much different if we were talking about
something that was not already at the end of its life cycle.

If you peruse the archives of this list, you'll see that comparing the
Mailman project's support and concern for users of our software even
peripherally to Microsoft does us a great disservice. If I gave the
impression that I was telling you that your issue was not important, I
apologize. I have only been trying to explain why I'm not interested in
doing this thing in this case.

Of course, it would be much better if Mailman's entire web UI was much
more easily customizable by end users. It is a worthwhile design goal
that I think is embodied in Mailman 3, but when Mailman 2 was developed,
just having a web UI at all was a major improvement over software like
Majordomo, and much of the end user interface is template driven, just
not all.

As far as the subscribe results page goes, as I pointed out earlier in
this thread
it is fairly easy to add a style sheet to this page.

Also, you could do what some others have done and create your own
subscribe CGI, submit data from it to Mailman's subscribe CGI, receive
the result from Mailman and parse it and present it to your user any way
you like.

Mark Sapiro <mark at msapiro.net>        The highway is for gamblers,
San Francisco Bay Area, California    better use your sense - B. Dylan

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