[Numpy-discussion] adding Quansight Labs as institutional partner

Ralf Gommers ralf.gommers at gmail.com
Thu Apr 11 16:03:23 EDT 2019

On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:25 PM Ralf Gommers <ralf.gommers at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Alan, good questions. The donations via the Flipcause site go to
> NumFOCUS. NumFOCUS is a 501(c)3 and NumPy's fiscal sponsor, so any
> individual or institution that wants to donate to NumPy should preferably
> donate to NumFOCUS. That way your donation is tax-deductable if you're in
> the US, and it can be used in a way that the NumPy Steering Council prefers.
> Quansight Labs is not a nonprofit and it doesn't make much sense for it to
> focus on donations. That said, it does have a very capable team, so could
> contract with NumFOCUS to do work on NumPy, if the NumPy Steering Council
> thinks that's in NumPy's best interest (e.g. for developing a particular
> feature).
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2019 at 6:05 PM Alan Isaac <alan.isaac at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Under the section "How will we fund this?" in the first Quansight link,
>> there is not category of "individual and institutional donations".
>> I noticed this because the question recently arose at my university,
>> how can the university occasionally donate to NumPy development?
> We should talk:) Anything we can do as a project to make that easier
> should be done. Also if you need an invoice or purchase order from
> NumFOCUS, I believe that can be easily arranged (and has been arranged for
> other projects in the past).
> In order for this to happen, the recipient of the donation and the
>> intended use of the funds must be transparently documented.  As an
>> example, suppose one goes to numpy.org and scrolls down (!?) to
>> the "Donate to Numpy" button.  It is entirely unclear what that
>> means, and clicking the button leads to a flipcause site that fails
>> to clarify.
> The numpy.org donation button needs to be overhauled anyway, because
> NumFOCUS is switching away from Flipcause. At the same time we can clarify
> on that page where donation go and how we then decide to use that funding.

Here is a PR with updates to the numpy.org front page:
https://github.com/numpy/numpy.org/pull/20. I think it contains all the
essentials (governance, roadmap, where the funds go). A larger website
overhaul is also in order, but that's hard to do right now. Howevrer if
there is still information missing that people really look for when
considering a donation, I'd love to know so I can add that straight away.


>> I suspect many academic institutions would be interested
>> in making occasional, modest contributions toward NumPy development,
>> if the recipient and intended uses were entirely transparent.
> I think academic institutions or the people in it may have a lot of
> goodwill towards NumPy, however as a project we historically have been very
> bad at communicating needs and asking for donations. That button doesn't
> really do much; our average donation level is like $50/month. I actually
> would like to improve that. E.g. if we have a good story and ask people
> whose research relies on NumPy (or other core projects) to build say a 0.5%
> software support item in their grant requests, that could turn into a
> decent revenue stream, which will then help with maintenance and
> accelerating development of new features on our roadmap.
> Cheers,
> Ralf
>> Cheers, Alan Isaac
>> On 4/9/2019 3:10 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Last week I joined Quansight. In Quansight Labs I will be working on
>> increasing the contributions to core SciPy/PyData projects, and will also
>> have funded time to work on NumPy and
>> > other projects myself. Hameer Abbasi has had and will continue to have
>> funded time to work on NumPy as well. So I have submitted a pull request
>> (gh-13289) to add Quansight Labs as
>> > an Institutional Partner (we list those at
>> https://docs.scipy.org/doc/numpy/dev/governance/people.html#institutional-partners,
>> currently only BIDS).
>> >
>> > Both Travis and I wrote blog posts about where we want to go with
>> Quansight Labs. Given the relevance to NumPy I thought it would be
>> appropriate to reference those posts here:
>> > -
>> https://www.quansight.com/single-post/2019/04/02/Welcoming-Ralf-Gommers-as-Director-of-Quansight-Labs
>> > <
>> https://www.quansight.com/single-post/2019/04/02/Welcoming-Ralf-Gommers-as-Director-of-Quansight-Labs
>> >
>> > - https://labs.quansight.org/blog/2019/4/joining-labs/
>> >
>> > Any feedback, suggestion or idea is very welcome.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ralf
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