[Python-3000] pep 3131 again

tomer filiba tomerfiliba at gmail.com
Thu May 17 16:41:16 CEST 2007

well, i still don't see what problems having that would solve. it seems
like just "a cool feature" people want to have. they will still need to use
latin text/english docs most of the time.

on the other i don't see a reason to limit them intentionally. if that
would keep them content/make the transition easier/help them learn
programming, i'd guess there's nothing wrong with that.

so i'm not enthused about it all, but i'll give that +0


On 5/17/07, "Martin v. Löwis" <martin at v.loewis.de> wrote:
> > === help people who can't type english ===
> > since the keywords remain ASCII, along with stdlib and all other major
> > third party libs -- how does that help the english-illiterate
> programmer?
> english-illiterate and "can't type english" are very different things.
> By "can't type english", I assume you mean "can't type Latin
> characters". These users are not helped at all by this PEP, but I think
> they are really rare, since keyboards commonly support a mode to enter
> Latin characters (perhaps after pressing some modifier key, or switching
> to Latin mode).
> >
> >     import random
> >     満は = range(100)
> >     random.shuffle(満は )
> >     未 = 満は.pop(7)
> >     if len(未) > 58:
> >         print "ラーになる!!!" #  מה זה השטויות האלה בכל מקרה?
> >
> > apart from excessive visual noise, the amount of *latin* identifiers and
> > keywords is not negligible.
> Right. However, you don't have to understand *English* to write or read
> this text. You don't need to know that "import" means "to bring from a
> foreign or external source", and that "shuffle" means "to mix in a mass
> confusedly". Instead, understanding them by their Python meaning is
> enough.
> > if all you're trying to save is coming up with
> > english names for your functions, than that's okay, but saying
> > "japanese people have a hard time coding in the latin alphabet"
> > does not withstand practical usage.
> Coming up with English names is not necessary today. Coming up
> with Latin spellings is.
> Whether or not Japanese or Chinese people with no knowledge of
> English still can master the Latin alphabet easily, I don't know,
> as all Chinese people I do know speak German or English well.
> I would say "they can speak for themselves", except that then
> neither of us would understand them.
> Regards,
> Martin
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