[Python-cuba] Joining Python Cuba

[Olemis Lang]

On 11/10/15, Olemis Lang <olemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
[...]
>
> I am also extremely interested to know whether there is any real
> schedule (deadlines/program/...) for the organisation of PyCon Cuba
> any time this year or the next ; what would be the
> groups/enterprises/organisations/institutions involved .
>


I'll clarify the reasons why I asked these questions . I knew of this
list mainly because of a message [1]_ sent by Roberto Rosario where he
said that

"Before joining this work group I had started piecing together a roadmap for
PyCon Latam Cuba."

> I am not sure of the initial details discussed by PSF and Cuban
> colleagues . Therefore , since I have +30y experience in the "living
> here" business , I also wanted to know a few more things regarding
> both PyCon organisation as well as Python Cuba internal mechanics :
>
>   1. What's the role of governmental institutions with respect to this
> group?
>       IOW , when I was young (and, btw, many similar initiatives led
> by community
>       members were asphyxiated to the point of making them disappear) all
>       organised groups like this had to be "monitored" or bound to a
> Ministry.
>       That's the case for ANEC , UNAICC , ACCS , UNEAC , and so on ...
>       Is this group formally registered ? What Ministry does it belong to ?
>   2. Is there a formal membership request process ?
>   3. What is the relationship between Python Cuba and the recent initiative
>       known as "Unión de Informáticos de Cuba" ?
>       Again ... I'm not a member of "Unión de Informáticos de Cuba"
>       and I do not have plans to join in any time soon either .
>   4. What can be the role of persons working as "Trabajadores por
> cuenta propia" ?
>       I mean , for me it's been more than +4y not working for any
>       governmental institution of any kind .
>
[...]

In the same message [1]_ he reasoned about the fact that :

"Right now there is no Cuban Python community, at least not under a unified
banner. I think that goes before doing a PyCon."

So I thought this was already achieved or on the works . Then I read
about UCI community proposal [2]_ and maybe over-reacted , but for
very good reasons as already suggested [1]_ by Roberto Rosario (as
well as other facts) . In Cuba , especially initiatives coming from
UCI, are *logically* biased towards *monopolization* . In order for
you to understand, IMO "Unión de Informáticos de Cuba" is one of the
recent organizations created for this purpose , considering the
logical changes after legalization of "trabajadores por cuenta propia"
(i.e. freelancers) . It is *logical* to think that a user group in UCI
, created with UCI resources , is governed by the institution , which
in turn is directly subordinated to the highest levels of the
government , so I was just trying to identify the boundaries of this
initiative (that I consider positive, btw ; nothing to say against it,
but ...) not from the PSF side but from the local community
perspective .

I'm hoping this will clarify my initial message .

Yesterday night I read more archived messages and knew of Roberto's
declining to be Chairman of Python-Cuba . I'm very sorry about that .

p.s. btw , what's the *recommended way* to follow a thread about an
existing conversation (which I do not have in my inbox ;) ?

.. [1] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-cuba/2015-May/000016.html

.. [2] https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-cuba/2015-May/000055.html

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