[Python-Dev] Update to Python Documentation Website Request

[Michael Foord]

David Lyon wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 18:05:07 +1000, Steven D'Aprano <steve at pearwood.info>
> wrote:
>   
>> But you shouldn't expect the 
>> Python dev team to accept an unproven tool into the official library 
>> before demonstrating both the need and the solution. 
>>     
>
> Of course... that's why I started off by asking what the process is.
>
> I am accepting that the current status of pythonpkgmgr is "unproven" so
> it will need some time for things to run their course.
>
>   

It would be great to have  a decent visual package manager for Python. 
It needs to be built on top of the work that Tarek is doing with 
distutils (and be compatible with his Distribute fork of setuptools) and 
it also needs to be established.

The good news is that there is time for both... Aren't there other tools 
that have similar goals? PyPI browser, Yolk etc

It is a shame that it needs to be built on Tk if it is to stand a chance 
of ever being included in the standard library - but with the right 
expertise it is *possible* to create decent looking UIs with Tk.

Michael

>> (Just because 
>> users say they want something, doesn't mean they'll actually use the 
>> tool you provide -- perhaps they don't know what they really need, and 
>> perhaps your tool doesn't match their needs.)
>>     
>
> Conversely, the process of satisfying needs is to discuss them. And
> people have been ever so helpful in that regard.
>
>   
>> I'm a user, and personally I don't want Yet Another Integrated Package 
>> Management Tool. What I really want is the ability to install Python 
>> packages using the PM tool I already use, namely yum. 
>>     
>
> ok - but no alternative to that is available on windows.
>
> pythonpkgmgr is not so different to that. And the idea behind it is
> to bring consistancy in package management across the different 
> platforms.
>
> It does have configuration that are specific to python, and will
> continue to do so. Like being able to specify where one wants the
> package installed.
>
>   
>> Putting your software on the Cheeseshop, and making regular 
>> announcements to the Python community (e.g. on comp.lang.python) will 
>> be a good way to publicise the tool, and if does meet a need, people 
>> will use it, and then, if it's good enough and popular enough and 
>> supported, it may be blessed by inclusion in the standard library.
>>     
>
> Thanks very much. Take care.
>
> David
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